Dumbo and Politics

With 6 weeks left for the Presidential race on Tuesday, November 4th, 2008, we’ve seen more politics related stencils and art in and around Dumbo area. There’s Barack:

Hope

…and Sarah Palin:
Sarah Palin and Billi Kid

…and “the end” for George Bush:
George Bush and Billi Kid

On Friday, Sept 26, 2008 at 9pm, Galapagos Art Space, as part of the Art Under the Bridge Festival with Current TV, will be projecting live, the first 2008 Presidential Debate. Learn more and be sure to vote:
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  • I think my wife will be able to tell that I’ve voted in this poll, since I am probably the only republican vote in Dumbo.

  • I think my wife will be able to tell that I’ve voted in this poll, since I am probably the only republican vote in Dumbo.

  • believe me, you are not alone

  • believe me, you are not alone

  • You are certainly not alone.

  • You are certainly not alone.

  • Fantastic! Like it’s ok that I think Macs and Vespas and Belgian blocks are cool, and so is art, danish furniture and new music, and that I think it is very uncool to call Farragut residents “vermin” and that I am still a Republican right? ‘Cause according to the NYTimes I don’t exist.

  • Fantastic! Like it’s ok that I think Macs and Vespas and Belgian blocks are cool, and so is art, danish furniture and new music, and that I think it is very uncool to call Farragut residents “vermin” and that I am still a Republican right? ‘Cause according to the NYTimes I don’t exist.

  • I want a “none of the above” option

  • I want a “none of the above” option

  • I’m a strong OBAMA supporter, and a lifelong Democrat, so I admit that I’m biased. But I’m Just curious to know if our local Republicans are excited about the Palin / McCain ticket?

  • I’m a strong OBAMA supporter, and a lifelong Democrat, so I admit that I’m biased. But I’m Just curious to know if our local Republicans are excited about the Palin / McCain ticket?

  • I am excited by the McCain/Palin ticket. I probably would have stayed home if it weren’t an intriguing VP pick. I know it is a lost cause in NY, but now I will vote to improve their numbers. Too bad Obama took all that money from Fannie and Freddie and helped block the oversight legislation Bush proposed years ago, and McCain promoted in 2005.

    I would respectfully refer you to the NY times article from Sept 11 2003 entitled “New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae” and specifically: “Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.

    ”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.””

    Ooops, dems.

  • I am excited by the McCain/Palin ticket. I probably would have stayed home if it weren’t an intriguing VP pick. I know it is a lost cause in NY, but now I will vote to improve their numbers. Too bad Obama took all that money from Fannie and Freddie and helped block the oversight legislation Bush proposed years ago, and McCain promoted in 2005.

    I would respectfully refer you to the NY times article from Sept 11 2003 entitled “New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae” and specifically: “Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.

    ”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.””

    Ooops, dems.

  • Well, I guess Obama didn’t block the Bush legislation, since he was still playing Chicago politics at the time. But McCain sponsored a bill in 2005 on the topic that died in the Senate Banking committee after the dems took control. Chairman? Dodd. Top 3 recipients of freddie fannie lobbying money? Dodd, Kerry, Obama ($105k). I guess that is probably a coincidence.

  • Well, I guess Obama didn’t block the Bush legislation, since he was still playing Chicago politics at the time. But McCain sponsored a bill in 2005 on the topic that died in the Senate Banking committee after the dems took control. Chairman? Dodd. Top 3 recipients of freddie fannie lobbying money? Dodd, Kerry, Obama ($105k). I guess that is probably a coincidence.

  • “One of the giant mortgage companies at the heart of the credit crisis paid $15,000 a month to a firm owned by Senator John McCain’s campaign manager from the end of 2005 through last month, according to two people with direct knowledge of the arrangement. The disclosure contradicts a statement Sunday night by Mr. McCain that the campaign manager, Rick Davis, had no involvement with the company for the last several years. Mr. Davis’s firm received the payments from the company, Freddie Mac, until it was taken over by the government this month along with Fannie Mae, the other big mortgage lender whose deteriorating finances helped precipitate the cascading problems on Wall Street, the people said.” — NYT

    McCain, and the Republican controlled congress (for six of the last eight years) along with the White House, deregulated us directly into our current financial crisis.

    I love how Giuliani talked about “Chicago machine politics” in his ridiculous GOP convention speech. What small town was he mayor of again? Surely there’s no machine in NYC, nor in DC for long time senators.

  • “One of the giant mortgage companies at the heart of the credit crisis paid $15,000 a month to a firm owned by Senator John McCain’s campaign manager from the end of 2005 through last month, according to two people with direct knowledge of the arrangement. The disclosure contradicts a statement Sunday night by Mr. McCain that the campaign manager, Rick Davis, had no involvement with the company for the last several years. Mr. Davis’s firm received the payments from the company, Freddie Mac, until it was taken over by the government this month along with Fannie Mae, the other big mortgage lender whose deteriorating finances helped precipitate the cascading problems on Wall Street, the people said.” — NYT

    McCain, and the Republican controlled congress (for six of the last eight years) along with the White House, deregulated us directly into our current financial crisis.

    I love how Giuliani talked about “Chicago machine politics” in his ridiculous GOP convention speech. What small town was he mayor of again? Surely there’s no machine in NYC, nor in DC for long time senators.

  • At this point in our nation’s history, there are two types of people who vote Republican:

    The ultra wealthy, and suckers.

  • At this point in our nation’s history, there are two types of people who vote Republican:

    The ultra wealthy, and suckers.

  • Palindrone- You are not alone! Although I consider myself more Libertarian than anything, I will be voting Republican this time around (I did not vote for Bush last election, FYI). Nice to know there are others out there in Brooklyn!

    To answer the question- I am very excited about McCain, not so excited about Palin (nothing against her, just disagree with her on some issues), but I will still vote for them.

    Beavis- you couldn’t be further from the truth. Life and politics are not that black and white. I have nothing against Democrats. Why can’t we just agree to disagree on the issues and what role our government should play in our lives? No need to insult each other. Just the way I feel about it.

  • Palindrone- You are not alone! Although I consider myself more Libertarian than anything, I will be voting Republican this time around (I did not vote for Bush last election, FYI). Nice to know there are others out there in Brooklyn!

    To answer the question- I am very excited about McCain, not so excited about Palin (nothing against her, just disagree with her on some issues), but I will still vote for them.

    Beavis- you couldn’t be further from the truth. Life and politics are not that black and white. I have nothing against Democrats. Why can’t we just agree to disagree on the issues and what role our government should play in our lives? No need to insult each other. Just the way I feel about it.

  • People like the Beav crack me up. They are just as close-minded and exclusionary as an ultra conservative. Typical NYC parlor groupthink. yawn.

  • People like the Beav crack me up. They are just as close-minded and exclusionary as an ultra conservative. Typical NYC parlor groupthink. yawn.

  • Neighbor – Sounds like that Davis guy’s firm was paid to do a job. What were Obama and Dodd paid for?
    And what is the argument that McCain was influenced by that, given that McCain actually co-sponsored legislation that would have subjected Freddie/Fannie to regulation?

  • Neighbor – Sounds like that Davis guy’s firm was paid to do a job. What were Obama and Dodd paid for?
    And what is the argument that McCain was influenced by that, given that McCain actually co-sponsored legislation that would have subjected Freddie/Fannie to regulation?

  • Here come all the Republican apologists trying to gloss over the national catastrophe that has been Republican rule.

    Thank you for your deregulation (since Regan) that led to the current financial disaster.

    Thank you for losing both a war of choice in Iraq and a war of necessity in Afganistan.

    Thank you for record high energy costs.

    Thank you for coming up with a $700 billion bail out for fat cats in less than a week and $1 trillion for war/transfer payments to the military industry over the past 7 years, but claim there’s not $40 billion so that hard working Americans can have health insurance.

    Thank you for not being sucessful in privatizing Social Security as you socialize Wall Street.

    Thank you for destroying our reputation around the world.

    Thank you for your dancing with snakes faith based initiatives.

    I stand by my previous comment.

    God bless the United States of America. Pray for an Obama victory and a Democratic Congress to change the Republicans’ diaper.

    Party of Lincoln my ass.

  • Here come all the Republican apologists trying to gloss over the national catastrophe that has been Republican rule.

    Thank you for your deregulation (since Regan) that led to the current financial disaster.

    Thank you for losing both a war of choice in Iraq and a war of necessity in Afganistan.

    Thank you for record high energy costs.

    Thank you for coming up with a $700 billion bail out for fat cats in less than a week and $1 trillion for war/transfer payments to the military industry over the past 7 years, but claim there’s not $40 billion so that hard working Americans can have health insurance.

    Thank you for not being sucessful in privatizing Social Security as you socialize Wall Street.

    Thank you for destroying our reputation around the world.

    Thank you for your dancing with snakes faith based initiatives.

    I stand by my previous comment.

    God bless the United States of America. Pray for an Obama victory and a Democratic Congress to change the Republicans’ diaper.

    Party of Lincoln my ass.

  • @Beav. Actually, if you look at voting patterns, “ultra wealthy” people tend to vote Dem. Rich folks to tend Republican, but one you get into the 100 million and up net worth, the numbers go Dem. Why? I have no idea. Maybe folks like the google lads, Buffet, Gates and Soros just have so much money that taxes are no longer even something they think about.

  • @Beav. Actually, if you look at voting patterns, “ultra wealthy” people tend to vote Dem. Rich folks to tend Republican, but one you get into the 100 million and up net worth, the numbers go Dem. Why? I have no idea. Maybe folks like the google lads, Buffet, Gates and Soros just have so much money that taxes are no longer even something they think about.

  • “They said they did not recall Mr. Davis’s doing much substantive work for the company in return for the money, other than to speak to a political action committee of high-ranking employees in October 2006 on the approaching midterm Congressional elections. They said Mr. Davis’s firm, Davis Manafort, had been kept on the payroll because of his close ties to Mr. McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, who by 2006 was widely expected to run again for the White House.” — same article from the NYT

    McCain Aide’s Firm Was Paid by Freddie Mac
    By JACKIE CALMES and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
    Published: September 23, 2008

    I suppose you can apologize for this, though. Just about everyone in Washington is hooked up to the current financial crisis in one way or another. My biggest problems with McCain are his shoot-from-the-hip decision making style (way too similar to Bush), his lack of full disclosure regarding his medical history, his strange “senior moments” (Mr. Zapatero anyone?), his blatant campaign lies and attempts at propaganda (“only reporters who show deference may interview Pailn”) his insane and deeply cynical choice of a crooked, creationist, book banning hockey mom from Alaska who counts oil and her proximity to Russia as national security and foreign policy experience…. I could go on and on.

    I used to like McCain. He was robbed in 2000. That was his time. He’s too old now — he seems much much older than his 72 years. He’s not the same man now — even his friends say so. Whether he wins the election or not, I believe he’s firmly on the path towards ending his career in disgrace. And I pray that, if elected, he does not die in office and burden this country with a Palin presidency.

  • “They said they did not recall Mr. Davis’s doing much substantive work for the company in return for the money, other than to speak to a political action committee of high-ranking employees in October 2006 on the approaching midterm Congressional elections. They said Mr. Davis’s firm, Davis Manafort, had been kept on the payroll because of his close ties to Mr. McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, who by 2006 was widely expected to run again for the White House.” — same article from the NYT

    McCain Aide’s Firm Was Paid by Freddie Mac
    By JACKIE CALMES and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
    Published: September 23, 2008

    I suppose you can apologize for this, though. Just about everyone in Washington is hooked up to the current financial crisis in one way or another. My biggest problems with McCain are his shoot-from-the-hip decision making style (way too similar to Bush), his lack of full disclosure regarding his medical history, his strange “senior moments” (Mr. Zapatero anyone?), his blatant campaign lies and attempts at propaganda (“only reporters who show deference may interview Pailn”) his insane and deeply cynical choice of a crooked, creationist, book banning hockey mom from Alaska who counts oil and her proximity to Russia as national security and foreign policy experience…. I could go on and on.

    I used to like McCain. He was robbed in 2000. That was his time. He’s too old now — he seems much much older than his 72 years. He’s not the same man now — even his friends say so. Whether he wins the election or not, I believe he’s firmly on the path towards ending his career in disgrace. And I pray that, if elected, he does not die in office and burden this country with a Palin presidency.

  • Palindrone- I agree. You have to just laugh at people like Beav. They think it is so simple that they blame EVERYTHING that is wrong with the world and in their lives on one political party. If only it were that simple!!!! It is honestly laughable to think life is that black and white.

    I also think it is really funny that we Americans think it is our god given right to fill up our huge SUVs with cheap gas and drive to places we don’t really need to go. I know this is a whole other issue that I probably shouldn’t bring up, but……. I feel truly terrible for people who work hard and still struggle to make ends meet. However, there is this huge part of the American population that waits in line for 8 hours to buy a $500 phone and then complains that milk is too expensive. I mean, give me a break. Have we lost sight of how truly lucky we are?

  • Palindrone- I agree. You have to just laugh at people like Beav. They think it is so simple that they blame EVERYTHING that is wrong with the world and in their lives on one political party. If only it were that simple!!!! It is honestly laughable to think life is that black and white.

    I also think it is really funny that we Americans think it is our god given right to fill up our huge SUVs with cheap gas and drive to places we don’t really need to go. I know this is a whole other issue that I probably shouldn’t bring up, but……. I feel truly terrible for people who work hard and still struggle to make ends meet. However, there is this huge part of the American population that waits in line for 8 hours to buy a $500 phone and then complains that milk is too expensive. I mean, give me a break. Have we lost sight of how truly lucky we are?

  • @Anon. I agree the people on both the far left and far right are usually hysterical and silly. But are people who wait in line to buy the iPhone REALLY the same people complaining about the price of milk? I somehow doubt it.

  • @Anon. I agree the people on both the far left and far right are usually hysterical and silly. But are people who wait in line to buy the iPhone REALLY the same people complaining about the price of milk? I somehow doubt it.

  • It will be a sad day for everyone if McCain/Palin win. It will be dangerous. A national (and international) tragedy. McCain with his personal war agendas and Palin with her total disregard for animals and wildlife. Did you know that the Humane Society is endorsing a candidate for the first time in their long history? (Obama, of course). That’s how whacked out the McCain/Palin ticket is.
    Wake up, people. Do your research. Republicans, this is the election to save your asses and vote Democrat. The current Republican candidates are dangerous people.

  • It will be a sad day for everyone if McCain/Palin win. It will be dangerous. A national (and international) tragedy. McCain with his personal war agendas and Palin with her total disregard for animals and wildlife. Did you know that the Humane Society is endorsing a candidate for the first time in their long history? (Obama, of course). That’s how whacked out the McCain/Palin ticket is.
    Wake up, people. Do your research. Republicans, this is the election to save your asses and vote Democrat. The current Republican candidates are dangerous people.

  • The real dangerous candidate is the Democratic candidate. All you have to do is take a look at his associates and background (or lack thereof). As you said, do some research.

    While growing up in Hawaii, Obama was mentored by Frank Marshall Davis, a leader in the Communist Party of America, who Obama referred to in his book as only “Frank.” Obama’s political career and Illinois State Senate run kicked off in the home of Bill Ayres, a member of the Weather Underground who admitted to bombing NYPD HQ and the Capitol. Twenty years in the congregation of the despicable Rev. Wright, who married Obama and his wife, baptized their children, and who gave a sermon that was the inspiration for the title of Obama’s book. Obama has tried to downplay the significance of these people in his life, but those claims are not supported by the facts. Obama has simply disassociated with these people when they became harmful to his ambitions.

    Why won’t Obama release his transcripts from Columbia? Why is there no evidence of any case notes or other writings by Obama from the time he served as editor of the Harvard Law Review? Why did Obama regularly vote “present” in the Illinois State Senate instead of taking a position on an issue? Why has Obama failed to hold any hearings of the subcommittee that he chairs during his whopping 143 working days as a US Senator?

    What is it in Obama’s background that he, his campaign and their minions in the mainstream media are trying to hide from the American people? Could it be that he shares the same radical views and endorses the same socialist policies as the people who have mentored and advised him throughout his life?

    For a quick sample those ideas, take a look at this WSJ article from yesterday describing the radical education agenda of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a foundation created by Ayres and for which Obama served on the board in the 90s.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122212856075765367.html?mod=djemEditorialPage

    Obama won’t save my ass, or anyone else’s. All he will do is take my wallet to bring socialism and wealth redistribution to America.

  • The real dangerous candidate is the Democratic candidate. All you have to do is take a look at his associates and background (or lack thereof). As you said, do some research.

    While growing up in Hawaii, Obama was mentored by Frank Marshall Davis, a leader in the Communist Party of America, who Obama referred to in his book as only “Frank.” Obama’s political career and Illinois State Senate run kicked off in the home of Bill Ayres, a member of the Weather Underground who admitted to bombing NYPD HQ and the Capitol. Twenty years in the congregation of the despicable Rev. Wright, who married Obama and his wife, baptized their children, and who gave a sermon that was the inspiration for the title of Obama’s book. Obama has tried to downplay the significance of these people in his life, but those claims are not supported by the facts. Obama has simply disassociated with these people when they became harmful to his ambitions.

    Why won’t Obama release his transcripts from Columbia? Why is there no evidence of any case notes or other writings by Obama from the time he served as editor of the Harvard Law Review? Why did Obama regularly vote “present” in the Illinois State Senate instead of taking a position on an issue? Why has Obama failed to hold any hearings of the subcommittee that he chairs during his whopping 143 working days as a US Senator?

    What is it in Obama’s background that he, his campaign and their minions in the mainstream media are trying to hide from the American people? Could it be that he shares the same radical views and endorses the same socialist policies as the people who have mentored and advised him throughout his life?

    For a quick sample those ideas, take a look at this WSJ article from yesterday describing the radical education agenda of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a foundation created by Ayres and for which Obama served on the board in the 90s.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122212856075765367.html?mod=djemEditorialPage

    Obama won’t save my ass, or anyone else’s. All he will do is take my wallet to bring socialism and wealth redistribution to America.

  • People, people. Can we please stop with the “end times” warnings on both sides? Every election, partisans bring out the “we’re doomed if the other guy wins” warnings, and guess what? Life goes on. I’ve lived through the Clinton years and the Bush years and, frankly, life as an upper-middle class Brooklyninte has been pretty much the same.

  • People, people. Can we please stop with the “end times” warnings on both sides? Every election, partisans bring out the “we’re doomed if the other guy wins” warnings, and guess what? Life goes on. I’ve lived through the Clinton years and the Bush years and, frankly, life as an upper-middle class Brooklyninte has been pretty much the same.

  • well thanks god your life has been pretty much the same. the world can all rest easy now. i doubt all the people killed, wounded and displaced by the iraq war could say the same.

  • well thanks god your life has been pretty much the same. the world can all rest easy now. i doubt all the people killed, wounded and displaced by the iraq war could say the same.

  • @Omac- unfortunately, yes, in my experience, those are often the same people.

  • @Omac- unfortunately, yes, in my experience, those are often the same people.

  • Governor Palin’s Reading List
    Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
    Posted September 15, 2008 | 11:27 AM (EST)
    (from the Huffington Post)

    “Fascist writer Westbrook Pegler, an avowed racist who Sarah Palin approvingly quoted in her acceptance speech for the moral superiority of small town values, expressed his fervent hope about my father, Robert F. Kennedy, as he contemplated his own run for the presidency in 1965, that “some white patriot of the Southern tier will spatter his spoonful of brains in public premises before the snow flies.”

    It might be worth asking Governor Palin for a tally of the other favorites from her reading list.”

  • Governor Palin’s Reading List
    Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
    Posted September 15, 2008 | 11:27 AM (EST)
    (from the Huffington Post)

    “Fascist writer Westbrook Pegler, an avowed racist who Sarah Palin approvingly quoted in her acceptance speech for the moral superiority of small town values, expressed his fervent hope about my father, Robert F. Kennedy, as he contemplated his own run for the presidency in 1965, that “some white patriot of the Southern tier will spatter his spoonful of brains in public premises before the snow flies.”

    It might be worth asking Governor Palin for a tally of the other favorites from her reading list.”

  • Wow, Huffington Post. Way to bring out those reliable, unbiased sources that fully research what they write to make sure they have actual facts.

  • Wow, Huffington Post. Way to bring out those reliable, unbiased sources that fully research what they write to make sure they have actual facts.

  • hey M, who’s bringing “socialism and wealth redistribution to America” via the $700,000,000,000 bailout right now?

  • hey M, who’s bringing “socialism and wealth redistribution to America” via the $700,000,000,000 bailout right now?

  • Hey k, where did I say I agreed with this bailout? In fact, McCain has said he does not agree with the plan in its current state or think it will pass.

    Take a look at who got us here in the first place. The Democrats like Dodd, Frank and Obama who took huge donations from Fannie and Freddie, despite numerous warnings from Greenspan, and even McCain in 2005, that those institutions were in trouble. Or Clinton, who signed the Community Reinvestment Act after pressure from groups like the NAACP and others to get banks to give more loans to minorities. So we ended up with all these NINJA loans (No Income, No Job or Assets) that are the source of this crisis.

    On the other hand, Obama has stated that he wants to increase the capital gains tax rates to excessive levels, despite admitting that doing so will actually bring in less revenue. Why? When asked on Meet The Press, he stated, “because its fair”. He also wants to add a tax onto corporate profits that he deems unreasonable. Wow, since when did the federal government get to decide what is a “reasonable” profit for private corporations? These plans should do wonders for the economy and investments. Obama will make Jimmy Carter look like a genius.

  • Hey k, where did I say I agreed with this bailout? In fact, McCain has said he does not agree with the plan in its current state or think it will pass.

    Take a look at who got us here in the first place. The Democrats like Dodd, Frank and Obama who took huge donations from Fannie and Freddie, despite numerous warnings from Greenspan, and even McCain in 2005, that those institutions were in trouble. Or Clinton, who signed the Community Reinvestment Act after pressure from groups like the NAACP and others to get banks to give more loans to minorities. So we ended up with all these NINJA loans (No Income, No Job or Assets) that are the source of this crisis.

    On the other hand, Obama has stated that he wants to increase the capital gains tax rates to excessive levels, despite admitting that doing so will actually bring in less revenue. Why? When asked on Meet The Press, he stated, “because its fair”. He also wants to add a tax onto corporate profits that he deems unreasonable. Wow, since when did the federal government get to decide what is a “reasonable” profit for private corporations? These plans should do wonders for the economy and investments. Obama will make Jimmy Carter look like a genius.

  • ok m, just keep parroting the talking points and maybe you might even start to believe them – i hope you do, because no one else is buying it.

  • ok m, just keep parroting the talking points and maybe you might even start to believe them – i hope you do, because no one else is buying it.

  • McSame should use the same pastor that Pailin had up in Wassila. That way he can ensure that he won’t be tripped up by any evil witchcraft. I love it, even FoxNews is running a clip on Palin’s pastor. Yet again more Pastor problems.

  • McSame should use the same pastor that Pailin had up in Wassila. That way he can ensure that he won’t be tripped up by any evil witchcraft. I love it, even FoxNews is running a clip on Palin’s pastor. Yet again more Pastor problems.

  • If nobody else is buying it, then why is the race a dead heat?

    You can call them talking points all you want. They are still facts. Just because you don’t like the facts, and would rather hear about hope and change and rainbows and unicorns, doesn’t change the facts.

  • If nobody else is buying it, then why is the race a dead heat?

    You can call them talking points all you want. They are still facts. Just because you don’t like the facts, and would rather hear about hope and change and rainbows and unicorns, doesn’t change the facts.

  • To k: M isn’t parroting ‘talking points,’ he speaks the truth. Jimmy Carter who, I presume you hold dear to your heart as a bold humanitarian, was the worst president of the 20th century. Yup, even worse than W who, I grant you, was/is pretty bad. Carter was elected on the fiasco of the Nixon-Ford Watergate Vietnam Era and then brought that to an all-time low with disastrous economic policies, record unemployment, stagflation, gas shortages, the Iran hostage crisis (and his limp-dicked response), not to mention the Russian invasion of Afghanistan (and his limp-dicked response). Then, dissatisfied with this exemplary record, he gave away the Panama Canal. LOL. Oh, and the Community Reinvestment Act mentioned above, it originated in 1977 under – who else? – Jimmy the Jerkoff.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act

    (be sure to read the Barney Frank quote in 2003)

  • To k: M isn’t parroting ‘talking points,’ he speaks the truth. Jimmy Carter who, I presume you hold dear to your heart as a bold humanitarian, was the worst president of the 20th century. Yup, even worse than W who, I grant you, was/is pretty bad. Carter was elected on the fiasco of the Nixon-Ford Watergate Vietnam Era and then brought that to an all-time low with disastrous economic policies, record unemployment, stagflation, gas shortages, the Iran hostage crisis (and his limp-dicked response), not to mention the Russian invasion of Afghanistan (and his limp-dicked response). Then, dissatisfied with this exemplary record, he gave away the Panama Canal. LOL. Oh, and the Community Reinvestment Act mentioned above, it originated in 1977 under – who else? – Jimmy the Jerkoff.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act

    (be sure to read the Barney Frank quote in 2003)

  • The race is in a “dead heat” 52 to 43, in Obama’s favor simply because there are a lot of racist people in America.

    And why do Republicans like to claim that the Democrats are responsible for the current financial crisis (and really just about everything else) when they were the minority party for the first six years of Bush’s presidency? And how can you possibly say that Greenspan tried to stop the Fannie / Freddie crisis — he is directly responsible for much of the origins of the sub-prime mortgage system. He initially thought they were wonderful, innovative products. And they made his friends very wealthy.

    Regarding the Huffington Post piece, you can say the website is biased (even though they were heavily pro W in 2000), but you can’t argue with who Pegler was and what he stood for. The short article I pasted simply quotes the atrocious sentiment Pegler espoused. And the fact that he was referenced in Palin’s speech — which was written by Bush’s speech writers — shows who is pulling the strings behind Palin. She’ll be our second Manchurian candidate, and she’s a far more convincing spokesperson for Karl Rove, etc.’s ideas than W due to her pageant & sportscaster days. She can really deliver a prepared speech! Do you know that the spelled nuclear “new-clear” on the teleprompter for her?

    Obama has real credentials and all of this un-American stuff some people try to attach to him is right up there with the race-baiting coded term “uppity” that the GOP likes to trot out. Obama was a brilliant student at Harvard. His constitutional law professor was interviewed yesterday and said that Obama was the best student he’s ever taught. He is a calm and measured man. He will make thoughtful, clear-headed decisions when he’s president. And he’s not an old, 20th century man who isn’t capable of seeing the complex solutions for a 21st century world.

    @ omac, It’s not all that hard for life to stay status quo when you live in prime Brooklyn or Manhattan and you’re not dependent upon a car in your daily life, know the price of milk, and you don’t have to heat a free standing house. My life hasn’t changed all that much from Clinton to Bush, but this country has been hurt immeasurably, as has our standing in the world in the last 8 years. It’s 100 times worse that I feared it would be when W was “elected” in 2000.

    Who knows what’s going to come to roost in our country after the Iraq war. And New York city will be one of the top targets for the young, disenfranchised men the Iraq War has begot. And what of all the killed and wounded service men and women? What about their families? A friend of mine from college was killed in Iraq this year. She a bright young doctor who was over there serving as a medic, and she died a mysterious non-combat related death. 4100+ Americans have been killed in the terrible war the Bush administration started under false pretenses. Over 100,000 Iraqi’s have been killed. And for what? We can’t undo this, we can’t get these people back. We still don’t have a coherent reason for the 6 year war we’re waging. Or do you actually believe that Saddam was behind the 9/11 attack, as Palin claims?

    A few months ago I could have been comfortable with a Hillary, Obama, or McCain presidency. The second McCain chose Palin and started pandered to the absolute worst of the Republican party (and began to wage a cynical, dishonorable campaign), I have actually begun to fear that his administration could be far worse that W’s. We could have our first book banning President. Wouldn’t that make the founders of this weep?

  • The race is in a “dead heat” 52 to 43, in Obama’s favor simply because there are a lot of racist people in America.

    And why do Republicans like to claim that the Democrats are responsible for the current financial crisis (and really just about everything else) when they were the minority party for the first six years of Bush’s presidency? And how can you possibly say that Greenspan tried to stop the Fannie / Freddie crisis — he is directly responsible for much of the origins of the sub-prime mortgage system. He initially thought they were wonderful, innovative products. And they made his friends very wealthy.

    Regarding the Huffington Post piece, you can say the website is biased (even though they were heavily pro W in 2000), but you can’t argue with who Pegler was and what he stood for. The short article I pasted simply quotes the atrocious sentiment Pegler espoused. And the fact that he was referenced in Palin’s speech — which was written by Bush’s speech writers — shows who is pulling the strings behind Palin. She’ll be our second Manchurian candidate, and she’s a far more convincing spokesperson for Karl Rove, etc.’s ideas than W due to her pageant & sportscaster days. She can really deliver a prepared speech! Do you know that the spelled nuclear “new-clear” on the teleprompter for her?

    Obama has real credentials and all of this un-American stuff some people try to attach to him is right up there with the race-baiting coded term “uppity” that the GOP likes to trot out. Obama was a brilliant student at Harvard. His constitutional law professor was interviewed yesterday and said that Obama was the best student he’s ever taught. He is a calm and measured man. He will make thoughtful, clear-headed decisions when he’s president. And he’s not an old, 20th century man who isn’t capable of seeing the complex solutions for a 21st century world.

    @ omac, It’s not all that hard for life to stay status quo when you live in prime Brooklyn or Manhattan and you’re not dependent upon a car in your daily life, know the price of milk, and you don’t have to heat a free standing house. My life hasn’t changed all that much from Clinton to Bush, but this country has been hurt immeasurably, as has our standing in the world in the last 8 years. It’s 100 times worse that I feared it would be when W was “elected” in 2000.

    Who knows what’s going to come to roost in our country after the Iraq war. And New York city will be one of the top targets for the young, disenfranchised men the Iraq War has begot. And what of all the killed and wounded service men and women? What about their families? A friend of mine from college was killed in Iraq this year. She a bright young doctor who was over there serving as a medic, and she died a mysterious non-combat related death. 4100+ Americans have been killed in the terrible war the Bush administration started under false pretenses. Over 100,000 Iraqi’s have been killed. And for what? We can’t undo this, we can’t get these people back. We still don’t have a coherent reason for the 6 year war we’re waging. Or do you actually believe that Saddam was behind the 9/11 attack, as Palin claims?

    A few months ago I could have been comfortable with a Hillary, Obama, or McCain presidency. The second McCain chose Palin and started pandered to the absolute worst of the Republican party (and began to wage a cynical, dishonorable campaign), I have actually begun to fear that his administration could be far worse that W’s. We could have our first book banning President. Wouldn’t that make the founders of this weep?

  • People are buying it, because M is spot on, in my opi

    The bottom line is- the Democrats blame the Republicans for everything and vice versa. It’s just the way it is. And it is ridiculous in both cases. Nothing is all the doing of one political party or one man. Nothing is that simple.

    Vote for who you want to vote for because you agree with their politics and you believe they have the best experience and judgement for the job. You don’t need to a find horrible things wrong with the person you are NOT voting for. You can still respect your neighbors’ differing opinions, ideals and thoughts on what role the government should play in our lives. This partisan bullsh*t and bashing is getting old.

  • People are buying it, because M is spot on, in my opi

    The bottom line is- the Democrats blame the Republicans for everything and vice versa. It’s just the way it is. And it is ridiculous in both cases. Nothing is all the doing of one political party or one man. Nothing is that simple.

    Vote for who you want to vote for because you agree with their politics and you believe they have the best experience and judgement for the job. You don’t need to a find horrible things wrong with the person you are NOT voting for. You can still respect your neighbors’ differing opinions, ideals and thoughts on what role the government should play in our lives. This partisan bullsh*t and bashing is getting old.

  • The typical line that the race is only close because people are racists. What a joke. The majority of people not voting for him are making that choice because they don’t agree with his views, policies and plans for this country. But keep falling back on that race card. All it is doing is turning people off from Obama.

    Good to see someone pulling out the Daily Kos talking points. You are worried about having a “book banning President”. That story was proven to be a fake, especially considering the fact that some of the books on the alleged list were not even published at the time she was Mayor. Good to see you are still hung up on the 2000 election. Get over it. Gore lost. The war started under “false pretenses”? You mean the same intelligence that every intelligence agency among our allies agreed on? You mean the intelligence that the majority of Democrats agreed on? In hindsight the intelligence might not have been accurate. But you know what they say about hindsight.

    Obama has credentials? For what? Even his VP pick said he doesn’t have the necessary experience earlier this year. 143 working days in the US Senate. Doesn’t hold hearings of the subcommittee he chairs, hasn’t written or sponsored any legislation of note, voted present repeatedly while serving in the Illinois State Senate. Oh, and before that he was a community organizer, working with people like Ayers and groups like ACORN. There are lots of brilliant law students, but that doesn’t make them qualified for the job. I’m not impressed.

    As for teleprompters, given Obama’s dependence on them, even in town hall style settings with his own supporters, you might want to reconsider that criticism.

    Can you provide a link to where Palin claimed Saddam was behind the 9/11 attacks? I have not heard that.

    And I’m sorry to hear about your friend.

  • The typical line that the race is only close because people are racists. What a joke. The majority of people not voting for him are making that choice because they don’t agree with his views, policies and plans for this country. But keep falling back on that race card. All it is doing is turning people off from Obama.

    Good to see someone pulling out the Daily Kos talking points. You are worried about having a “book banning President”. That story was proven to be a fake, especially considering the fact that some of the books on the alleged list were not even published at the time she was Mayor. Good to see you are still hung up on the 2000 election. Get over it. Gore lost. The war started under “false pretenses”? You mean the same intelligence that every intelligence agency among our allies agreed on? You mean the intelligence that the majority of Democrats agreed on? In hindsight the intelligence might not have been accurate. But you know what they say about hindsight.

    Obama has credentials? For what? Even his VP pick said he doesn’t have the necessary experience earlier this year. 143 working days in the US Senate. Doesn’t hold hearings of the subcommittee he chairs, hasn’t written or sponsored any legislation of note, voted present repeatedly while serving in the Illinois State Senate. Oh, and before that he was a community organizer, working with people like Ayers and groups like ACORN. There are lots of brilliant law students, but that doesn’t make them qualified for the job. I’m not impressed.

    As for teleprompters, given Obama’s dependence on them, even in town hall style settings with his own supporters, you might want to reconsider that criticism.

    Can you provide a link to where Palin claimed Saddam was behind the 9/11 attacks? I have not heard that.

    And I’m sorry to hear about your friend.

  • m, i’m just curious – do you actually live or work in brooklyn or are do you work for the mccain campaign and get paid to troll the internet for new blogs to spew your lies and distortions onto? if you do work for the campaign – why is mccain backing away from debate?

  • m, i’m just curious – do you actually live or work in brooklyn or are do you work for the mccain campaign and get paid to troll the internet for new blogs to spew your lies and distortions onto? if you do work for the campaign – why is mccain backing away from debate?

  • McCain is calling to cancel the debate as he’s the only candidate who’s putting the country’s priorities over politics. The debate can wait until the current banking crisis is over. The postponing of the debate has nothing to do with not wanting to debate Obama, but putting the people first, as he has for the past 26 years in Washington.

  • McCain is calling to cancel the debate as he’s the only candidate who’s putting the country’s priorities over politics. The debate can wait until the current banking crisis is over. The postponing of the debate has nothing to do with not wanting to debate Obama, but putting the people first, as he has for the past 26 years in Washington.

  • rrrrriiiiiiggght….

  • rrrrriiiiiiggght….

  • Where have crackey and smokey gone?

  • Where have crackey and smokey gone?

  • They had to “suspend” their duties on Front Street in order to canvass for McCain–Palin.

  • They had to “suspend” their duties on Front Street in order to canvass for McCain–Palin.

  • @M,

    The McCain came out and said that Palin did approach the librarian about banning books, but she was only asking a “rhetorical question”. I agree that the lists circulating are fakes, but the assertion that Palin was merely making this request in hypothetical terms is an extreme euphemism. How else can you explain the fact that the librarian was subsequently fired when she gave the wrong answer to the “rhetorical” question and then reinstated after a public outcry?

    Palin made the Iraq / 9/11 assertion in a recent interview. I’ll try to find the link to the article containing this quote. The intelligence that led us into the Iraq war has been disproved, and Colin Powell has said that he is ashamed for his role in relaying such seriously flawed and untrue information.

    Had McCain picked a real candidate as his VP, I would still be pulling for Obama, but I could be relatively comfortable with either candidate. I simply can’t even recognize McCain anymore. I could have voted for him easily over Gore in 2000. I voted for Clinton twice, but by the end of his administration, the sex scandal, the questionable pardons… I was happy to see the back of him and Gore was tainted (and the sighing and the alpha male nonsense made him insufferable). That said, some truly questionable stuff went down in 2000, particularly in Florida. I’m bitter about it, but mainly in hindsight now that the country is so damaged.

    There really is a race problem with Obama. This is a real issue. You’re right, Obama is young and relatively untested, but he’s a brilliant and accomplished man. The Rove playbook and many extreme members of the party have simply ruined the Republican party. The throngs of empty seats at the RNC, and the secret detainment of journalists who covered the protests show just how fractured and broken the party is.

    If McCain were really a maverick, particularly one that puts “Country First”, then he would have picked a qualified running mate. Since the Palin pick, he has pulled a lot of stunts, “stretched” many “truths”, and now, in attempting to pull out of the debate, he has made a serious gaffe in an attempt to save his own ass. They’re also trying to postpone the Palin debate. Have you seen her recent interview with Katie Couric? You can’t even make this stuff up.

    I found this editorial from the NYT compelling (excerpts below):

    Barack Obama, John McCain and the Language of Race
    By BRENT STAPLES
    Published: September 21, 2008

    “It was not that long ago that black people in the Deep South could be beaten or killed for seeking the right to vote, talking back to the wrong white man or failing to give way on the sidewalk. People of color who violated these and other proscriptions could be designated “uppity niggers” and subjected to acts of violence and intimidation that were meant to dissuade others from following their examples.

    The term “uppity” was applied to affluent black people, who sometimes paid a horrific price for owning nicer homes, cars or more successful businesses than whites.

    This obsession with black subservience was based in nostalgia for slavery. No sane person would openly express such a sentiment today. But the discomfort with certain forms of black assertiveness is too deeply rooted in the national psyche — and the national language — to just disappear. It has been a persistent theme in the public discourse since Barack Obama became a plausible candidate for the presidency.

    A blatant example surfaced earlier this month, when a Georgia Republican, Representative Lynn Westmoreland, described the Obamas as “uppity” in response to a reporter’s question. Mr. Westmoreland, who actually stood by the term when given a chance to retreat, later tried to excuse himself by saying that the dictionary definition carried no racial meaning. That seems implausible. Mr. Westmoreland is from the South, where the vernacular meaning of the word has always been clear.

    The Jim Crow South institutionalized racial paternalism in its newspapers, which typically denied black adults the courtesy titles of Mr. and Mrs. — and reduced them to children by calling them by first names only. Representative Geoff Davis, Republican of Kentucky, succumbed to the old language earlier this year when describing what he viewed as Mr. Obama’s lack of preparedness to handle nuclear policy. “That boy’s finger does not need to be on the button,” he said.

    In the Old South, black men and women who were competent, confident speakers on matters of importance were termed “disrespectful,” the implication being that all good Negroes bowed, scraped, grinned and deferred to their white betters.

    In what is probably a harbinger of things to come, the McCain campaign has already run a commercial that carries a similar intimation, accusing Mr. Obama of being “disrespectful” to Sarah Palin. The argument is muted, but its racial antecedents are very clear.

    Mr. Obama seems to understand that he is always an utterance away from a statement — or a phrase — that could transform him in a campaign ad from the affable, rational and racially ambiguous candidate into the archetypical angry black man who scares off the white vote. His caution is evident from the way he sifts and searches the language as he speaks, stepping around words that might push him into the danger zone.”

  • @M,

    The McCain came out and said that Palin did approach the librarian about banning books, but she was only asking a “rhetorical question”. I agree that the lists circulating are fakes, but the assertion that Palin was merely making this request in hypothetical terms is an extreme euphemism. How else can you explain the fact that the librarian was subsequently fired when she gave the wrong answer to the “rhetorical” question and then reinstated after a public outcry?

    Palin made the Iraq / 9/11 assertion in a recent interview. I’ll try to find the link to the article containing this quote. The intelligence that led us into the Iraq war has been disproved, and Colin Powell has said that he is ashamed for his role in relaying such seriously flawed and untrue information.

    Had McCain picked a real candidate as his VP, I would still be pulling for Obama, but I could be relatively comfortable with either candidate. I simply can’t even recognize McCain anymore. I could have voted for him easily over Gore in 2000. I voted for Clinton twice, but by the end of his administration, the sex scandal, the questionable pardons… I was happy to see the back of him and Gore was tainted (and the sighing and the alpha male nonsense made him insufferable). That said, some truly questionable stuff went down in 2000, particularly in Florida. I’m bitter about it, but mainly in hindsight now that the country is so damaged.

    There really is a race problem with Obama. This is a real issue. You’re right, Obama is young and relatively untested, but he’s a brilliant and accomplished man. The Rove playbook and many extreme members of the party have simply ruined the Republican party. The throngs of empty seats at the RNC, and the secret detainment of journalists who covered the protests show just how fractured and broken the party is.

    If McCain were really a maverick, particularly one that puts “Country First”, then he would have picked a qualified running mate. Since the Palin pick, he has pulled a lot of stunts, “stretched” many “truths”, and now, in attempting to pull out of the debate, he has made a serious gaffe in an attempt to save his own ass. They’re also trying to postpone the Palin debate. Have you seen her recent interview with Katie Couric? You can’t even make this stuff up.

    I found this editorial from the NYT compelling (excerpts below):

    Barack Obama, John McCain and the Language of Race
    By BRENT STAPLES
    Published: September 21, 2008

    “It was not that long ago that black people in the Deep South could be beaten or killed for seeking the right to vote, talking back to the wrong white man or failing to give way on the sidewalk. People of color who violated these and other proscriptions could be designated “uppity niggers” and subjected to acts of violence and intimidation that were meant to dissuade others from following their examples.

    The term “uppity” was applied to affluent black people, who sometimes paid a horrific price for owning nicer homes, cars or more successful businesses than whites.

    This obsession with black subservience was based in nostalgia for slavery. No sane person would openly express such a sentiment today. But the discomfort with certain forms of black assertiveness is too deeply rooted in the national psyche — and the national language — to just disappear. It has been a persistent theme in the public discourse since Barack Obama became a plausible candidate for the presidency.

    A blatant example surfaced earlier this month, when a Georgia Republican, Representative Lynn Westmoreland, described the Obamas as “uppity” in response to a reporter’s question. Mr. Westmoreland, who actually stood by the term when given a chance to retreat, later tried to excuse himself by saying that the dictionary definition carried no racial meaning. That seems implausible. Mr. Westmoreland is from the South, where the vernacular meaning of the word has always been clear.

    The Jim Crow South institutionalized racial paternalism in its newspapers, which typically denied black adults the courtesy titles of Mr. and Mrs. — and reduced them to children by calling them by first names only. Representative Geoff Davis, Republican of Kentucky, succumbed to the old language earlier this year when describing what he viewed as Mr. Obama’s lack of preparedness to handle nuclear policy. “That boy’s finger does not need to be on the button,” he said.

    In the Old South, black men and women who were competent, confident speakers on matters of importance were termed “disrespectful,” the implication being that all good Negroes bowed, scraped, grinned and deferred to their white betters.

    In what is probably a harbinger of things to come, the McCain campaign has already run a commercial that carries a similar intimation, accusing Mr. Obama of being “disrespectful” to Sarah Palin. The argument is muted, but its racial antecedents are very clear.

    Mr. Obama seems to understand that he is always an utterance away from a statement — or a phrase — that could transform him in a campaign ad from the affable, rational and racially ambiguous candidate into the archetypical angry black man who scares off the white vote. His caution is evident from the way he sifts and searches the language as he speaks, stepping around words that might push him into the danger zone.”

  • Palin Links Iraq to Sept. 11 In Talk to Troops in Alaska
    The Washington Post

    By Anne E. Kornblut
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Friday, September 12, 2008; Page A01

    FORT WAINWRIGHT, Alaska, Sept. 11 — Gov. Sarah Palin linked the war in Iraq with the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, telling an Iraq-bound brigade of soldiers that included her son that they would “defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of Americans.”

    The idea that the Iraqi government under Saddam Hussein helped al-Qaeda plan the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, a view once promoted by Bush administration officials, has since been rejected even by the president himself. But it is widely agreed that militants allied with al-Qaeda have taken root in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion.”

    One could argue that Palin was speaking in general terms, drawing upon the surge of enlistments inspired by the 9/11 tragedy — but this really was a serious misstep, particularly for the more informed and moderate voters out there.

    It has also been reported that Palin’s son Track deployed to Iraq after he was given the option of enlisting in the Army or going to jail due to a serious incidence of vandalism — he tampered with the brakes on a local school bus.

    Maybe I’m just blinded by my own partisan views, but I just don’t feel like there’s anything close to the “truth massaging” and downright propaganda that keeps coming from the GOP.

  • Palin Links Iraq to Sept. 11 In Talk to Troops in Alaska
    The Washington Post

    By Anne E. Kornblut
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Friday, September 12, 2008; Page A01

    FORT WAINWRIGHT, Alaska, Sept. 11 — Gov. Sarah Palin linked the war in Iraq with the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, telling an Iraq-bound brigade of soldiers that included her son that they would “defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of Americans.”

    The idea that the Iraqi government under Saddam Hussein helped al-Qaeda plan the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, a view once promoted by Bush administration officials, has since been rejected even by the president himself. But it is widely agreed that militants allied with al-Qaeda have taken root in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion.”

    One could argue that Palin was speaking in general terms, drawing upon the surge of enlistments inspired by the 9/11 tragedy — but this really was a serious misstep, particularly for the more informed and moderate voters out there.

    It has also been reported that Palin’s son Track deployed to Iraq after he was given the option of enlisting in the Army or going to jail due to a serious incidence of vandalism — he tampered with the brakes on a local school bus.

    Maybe I’m just blinded by my own partisan views, but I just don’t feel like there’s anything close to the “truth massaging” and downright propaganda that keeps coming from the GOP.

  • neighbor writes: “I just don’t feel like there’s anything close to the ‘truth massaging’ and downright propaganda that keeps coming from the GOP.”
    http://www.hypemovie.com/?gclid=COmdta38-JUCFQquGgodnW6UFw

  • neighbor writes: “I just don’t feel like there’s anything close to the ‘truth massaging’ and downright propaganda that keeps coming from the GOP.”
    http://www.hypemovie.com/?gclid=COmdta38-JUCFQquGgodnW6UFw

  • Hey break, I actually live in Brooklyn and don’t work for any campaign. Not that that is any of your business. Nothing I have said is a lie or distortion. Only facts. Just because you don’t want to believe that your messiah is nothing more than an empty suit trying to impose his socialist ideas on the country doesn’t make it untrue.

    As far as lies, distortions, and dishonorable campaign tactics that you and neighbor refer to, the Obama camp has done plenty of that. Such as alleging McCain doesn’t know how to email, when he does use it by dictating to others due to his war injuries. Even Biden called that ad terrible. Or the recent ad equating McCain and Rush Limbaugh, that used nothing more than out-of-context quotations and was easily proven as lies and distortions. Or the recent attempts by Obama surrogates to shut down talk radio programs that are talking about his questionable past and associations. Obama is no boy scout.

    Obama – change is all you’ll have left in your pocket when I get done with you.

  • Hey break, I actually live in Brooklyn and don’t work for any campaign. Not that that is any of your business. Nothing I have said is a lie or distortion. Only facts. Just because you don’t want to believe that your messiah is nothing more than an empty suit trying to impose his socialist ideas on the country doesn’t make it untrue.

    As far as lies, distortions, and dishonorable campaign tactics that you and neighbor refer to, the Obama camp has done plenty of that. Such as alleging McCain doesn’t know how to email, when he does use it by dictating to others due to his war injuries. Even Biden called that ad terrible. Or the recent ad equating McCain and Rush Limbaugh, that used nothing more than out-of-context quotations and was easily proven as lies and distortions. Or the recent attempts by Obama surrogates to shut down talk radio programs that are talking about his questionable past and associations. Obama is no boy scout.

    Obama – change is all you’ll have left in your pocket when I get done with you.

  • Oh brother. The email commercial? That doesn’t come close to the McCain campaign’s creepy and disgusting assertion that Obama supported sex education for 5 year olds, when he actually voted in favor of legislation that would allow educators to teach little children how to protect themselves from sexual predators. Even GOP folks decried the numerous disrespectful and untrue ads McCain ran for weeks, and called them out as far worse than Obama’s.

    Carter was terrible, but Bush will go down as the worst president in US history. You guys have drunk the Kool-aid. Good luck to you tonight at the debate, and at Palin’s VP face-off with Biden. The McCain / Palin ticket is despicable and if you’re merely voting for them to protect your own bottom line, then I seriously question your character.

    Democrats may be tax and spend, but the Republicans are of the far more dangerous school of borrow and squander. They mortgaged this country to China in order to finance the Iraq war. What will we do if China decides to call in the loan? Print more money like we’re doing right now? This is a joke.

    No one thinks Obama is the messiah — that’s just something the GOP likes to say. I’m not a fool. I don’t think Obama is perfect or pure as the driven snow, what politician is? Maybe Jimmy Stewart in the movies. But Obama has better ideas, better people around him, and a much more solid temperament than McCain. And he’s not getting the witches driven out of him in some cult-y church in Alaska where they call their myopic personal and political views “God’s will”.

    I don’t want to pay any more taxes than the always climbing 6-figure bill I have to fork over every year, but I trust the Democrats with that money much more than the Republicans who will spend it all overseas. The Republicans have a bad habit of losing millions at a time in their cronies pockets — Halliburton?

    And how you can even reference socialism in respect to the Democrats right now is crazy. Even Jim Cramer is talking about the bail-out in connection to the Republicans. “It’s socialism for the rich guys, and capitalism for everyone else.”

    Good luck in the election. I look forward to watching your candidates continue to flail and humiliate the GOP. Perhaps they’ll help to put the final nail in the coffin and force the Republicans to wipe the slate clean and start anew.

  • Oh brother. The email commercial? That doesn’t come close to the McCain campaign’s creepy and disgusting assertion that Obama supported sex education for 5 year olds, when he actually voted in favor of legislation that would allow educators to teach little children how to protect themselves from sexual predators. Even GOP folks decried the numerous disrespectful and untrue ads McCain ran for weeks, and called them out as far worse than Obama’s.

    Carter was terrible, but Bush will go down as the worst president in US history. You guys have drunk the Kool-aid. Good luck to you tonight at the debate, and at Palin’s VP face-off with Biden. The McCain / Palin ticket is despicable and if you’re merely voting for them to protect your own bottom line, then I seriously question your character.

    Democrats may be tax and spend, but the Republicans are of the far more dangerous school of borrow and squander. They mortgaged this country to China in order to finance the Iraq war. What will we do if China decides to call in the loan? Print more money like we’re doing right now? This is a joke.

    No one thinks Obama is the messiah — that’s just something the GOP likes to say. I’m not a fool. I don’t think Obama is perfect or pure as the driven snow, what politician is? Maybe Jimmy Stewart in the movies. But Obama has better ideas, better people around him, and a much more solid temperament than McCain. And he’s not getting the witches driven out of him in some cult-y church in Alaska where they call their myopic personal and political views “God’s will”.

    I don’t want to pay any more taxes than the always climbing 6-figure bill I have to fork over every year, but I trust the Democrats with that money much more than the Republicans who will spend it all overseas. The Republicans have a bad habit of losing millions at a time in their cronies pockets — Halliburton?

    And how you can even reference socialism in respect to the Democrats right now is crazy. Even Jim Cramer is talking about the bail-out in connection to the Republicans. “It’s socialism for the rich guys, and capitalism for everyone else.”

    Good luck in the election. I look forward to watching your candidates continue to flail and humiliate the GOP. Perhaps they’ll help to put the final nail in the coffin and force the Republicans to wipe the slate clean and start anew.

  • I haven’t seen Cracky in about 2 weeks. Yesterday, I saw Smokey wearing an apron while standing outside Front Street Pizza. Could they have actually given him some work?

  • I haven’t seen Cracky in about 2 weeks. Yesterday, I saw Smokey wearing an apron while standing outside Front Street Pizza. Could they have actually given him some work?

  • DUDE! If smokey is working there I will never eat there again. That is so disgusting. Actually, I’ve seen him grab his and crackey’s “backpacks” out of the pizza side door that leads to the pizza basement. No doubt he is giving free weed to the owner (who’s brothers is a cop, btw) to store his shizzy down there. UGH! The thought of smokey kneading my pizza dough or slicing my pepperoni is horrifying. What’s next, crackey making the egg salad at peas and pickles? God help us all if these two have entered the DUMBO food services industry.

  • DUDE! If smokey is working there I will never eat there again. That is so disgusting. Actually, I’ve seen him grab his and crackey’s “backpacks” out of the pizza side door that leads to the pizza basement. No doubt he is giving free weed to the owner (who’s brothers is a cop, btw) to store his shizzy down there. UGH! The thought of smokey kneading my pizza dough or slicing my pepperoni is horrifying. What’s next, crackey making the egg salad at peas and pickles? God help us all if these two have entered the DUMBO food services industry.

  • for the record, dumbonyc deletes comments that it deems unpopular. i have had at least 6 or 7 comments deleted b/c dumbonyc didn’t like them. there was nothing vulgar or offensive about my comments. this is not a free and open forum, be advised. totally uncool, dumbonyc.

  • for the record, dumbonyc deletes comments that it deems unpopular. i have had at least 6 or 7 comments deleted b/c dumbonyc didn’t like them. there was nothing vulgar or offensive about my comments. this is not a free and open forum, be advised. totally uncool, dumbonyc.

  • comments such as “First!”, which don’t contribute to anything are deleted. Those were the 7 that were deleted. Nothing else has been deleted, including your pizzaface comment. Also, if your email or comment contain certain words, they are automatically filtered by the blog software.

    Also, for the record, nothing in this politics thread has been deleted. There are some intelligent comments and good reading. Thanks all for contributing.

  • comments such as “First!”, which don’t contribute to anything are deleted. Those were the 7 that were deleted. Nothing else has been deleted, including your pizzaface comment. Also, if your email or comment contain certain words, they are automatically filtered by the blog software.

    Also, for the record, nothing in this politics thread has been deleted. There are some intelligent comments and good reading. Thanks all for contributing.

  • There’s absolutely nothing whatsoever which requires DUMBONYC or any private blog to publish anyone’s comments.

    In case you want to shout “First Amendment” back, that only applies to government censorship of communication, not a private individual or corporation’s decision on what to publish.

    If you have something to say: open your own blog.

  • There’s absolutely nothing whatsoever which requires DUMBONYC or any private blog to publish anyone’s comments.

    In case you want to shout “First Amendment” back, that only applies to government censorship of communication, not a private individual or corporation’s decision on what to publish.

    If you have something to say: open your own blog.

  • Dumbonyc. On a serious note I applaud and thank you for all your efforts in keeping this website alive. It is a great forum for people who live or not live in the neighborhood to share thoughts and comments that may be on their minds. Keep up the great work.

  • Dumbonyc. On a serious note I applaud and thank you for all your efforts in keeping this website alive. It is a great forum for people who live or not live in the neighborhood to share thoughts and comments that may be on their minds. Keep up the great work.

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