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		<title>By: Dumbo NYC, Brooklyn &#187; Archive &#187; 30 Washington Street Conversion Begins (DumboNYC.com)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dumbo NYC, Brooklyn &#187; Archive &#187; 30 Washington Street Conversion Begins (DumboNYC.com)</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] the League Treatment Center, that they would need to relocate in 2009. The League Treatment Center (as featured on DumboNYC) serves 100 preschool children and 150 adults (they&#8217;ve since found a new home at 470 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the League Treatment Center, that they would need to relocate in 2009. The League Treatment Center (as featured on DumboNYC) serves 100 preschool children and 150 adults (they&#8217;ve since found a new home at 470 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dumbo NYC, Brooklyn &#187; Archive &#187; Two Trees Leases Rent-free Space to non-profits in Dumbo (DumboNYC.com)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dumbo NYC, Brooklyn &#187; Archive &#187; Two Trees Leases Rent-free Space to non-profits in Dumbo (DumboNYC.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 05:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] {Disability non-profits in Dumbo}       Filed in Dumbo Retail and Businesses, Real Estate at 12:55 am  View Comments          blog [...]</description>
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		<title>By: whats in a name</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2009/10/15/a-disability-friendly-dumbo/comment-page-1/#comment-47615</link>
		<dc:creator>whats in a name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carol, &lt;br&gt;With all due respect, the best way to support this school is to NOT shop in the local stores. We should pray that they go out of business and have more vacant space at  cheaper rent. The more successful the local businesses are the more rent Landlords will want for their spaces. Your logic escapes me.&lt;br&gt;loose stool</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol, <br />With all due respect, the best way to support this school is to NOT shop in the local stores. We should pray that they go out of business and have more vacant space at  cheaper rent. The more successful the local businesses are the more rent Landlords will want for their spaces. Your logic escapes me.<br />loose stool</p>
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		<title>By: whats in a name</title>
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		<dc:creator>whats in a name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carol, &lt;br&gt;With all due respect, the best way to support this school is to NOT shop in the local stores. We should pray that they go out of business and have more vacant space at  cheaper rent. The more successful the local businesses are the more rent Landlords will want for their spaces. Your logic escapes me.&lt;br&gt;loose stool</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol, <br />With all due respect, the best way to support this school is to NOT shop in the local stores. We should pray that they go out of business and have more vacant space at  cheaper rent. The more successful the local businesses are the more rent Landlords will want for their spaces. Your logic escapes me.<br />loose stool</p>
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		<title>By: Name</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2009/10/15/a-disability-friendly-dumbo/comment-page-1/#comment-44558</link>
		<dc:creator>Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rich people are assholes</description>
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		<title>By: Carol Greenburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Greenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 02:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My blog &quot;Aspieadvocat&quot; at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.carolgreenburg.vox.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.carolgreenburg.vox.com&lt;/a&gt; discusses the importance of supporting neighborhoods that support people with disabilites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My blog &#8220;Aspieadvocat&#8221; at <a href="http://www.carolgreenburg.vox.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.carolgreenburg.vox.com</a> discusses the importance of supporting neighborhoods that support people with disabilites.</p>
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		<title>By: Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some of you forget that these agencies where here way before anyone wanted to live here. Two Trees and Walentas (they are the same people) couldn&#039;t get anyone to to rent out theirs spaces back then because it was a dangerous neighborhood with no stores or any kind of life. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A lot of the artists were in DUMBO because they could afford the rent and eventually they left because either they couldn&#039;t afford the rent or they got kicked out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; The buses come in around 8:45 and are unloaded by 9:10 unless they are late usually because of traffic, break down or accident. What about all the traffic that was created by Two Trees? Not because of the buses mainly because of all the businesses and apartment buildings that exist now. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If anyone that has responded negatively to this, how would you feel if your loved one had to go to an agency like this. We should be lucky that agencies like this exist and it is too bad that they have to leave. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Once the school&#039;s lease is up this building will be turned into high end condos full of more rich people, more cars, more traffic and no parking spots. Once the middle school is built there will be more buses and more kids.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s too bad these non-profit agencies have to leave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some of you forget that these agencies where here way before anyone wanted to live here. Two Trees and Walentas (they are the same people) couldn&#39;t get anyone to to rent out theirs spaces back then because it was a dangerous neighborhood with no stores or any kind of life. </p>
<p>A lot of the artists were in DUMBO because they could afford the rent and eventually they left because either they couldn&#39;t afford the rent or they got kicked out.</p>
<p> The buses come in around 8:45 and are unloaded by 9:10 unless they are late usually because of traffic, break down or accident. What about all the traffic that was created by Two Trees? Not because of the buses mainly because of all the businesses and apartment buildings that exist now. </p>
<p>If anyone that has responded negatively to this, how would you feel if your loved one had to go to an agency like this. We should be lucky that agencies like this exist and it is too bad that they have to leave. </p>
<p>Once the school&#39;s lease is up this building will be turned into high end condos full of more rich people, more cars, more traffic and no parking spots. Once the middle school is built there will be more buses and more kids.   </p>
<p>It&#39;s too bad these non-profit agencies have to leave.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bothered by idling buses? Good lord maybe you can get the MTA to stop running trains then reroute traffic on the bridges and the BQE. Maybe you can get street sweepers rather then the street cleaning vehicles. Maybe get rid of all children from the park because they make noise. MAybe get rid of all people. Then finally some quiet.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I for one will miss the League and their buses filled with kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bothered by idling buses? Good lord maybe you can get the MTA to stop running trains then reroute traffic on the bridges and the BQE. Maybe you can get street sweepers rather then the street cleaning vehicles. Maybe get rid of all children from the park because they make noise. MAybe get rid of all people. Then finally some quiet.</p>
<p>I for one will miss the League and their buses filled with kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jed, is that you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jed, is that you?</p>
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		<title>By: Fosterhood </title>
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		<dc:creator>Fosterhood </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last comment, I promise.  I&#039;m still shuddering over your comment, GT, about folks with disabilities as  &quot;not worth the trouble&quot;.  I&#039;m sure you didn&#039;t mean it that way...  however, it&#039;s worth mentioning that a lot of people with disabilities, especially autism, read this site.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here&#039;s a group that just had a show on MTV-  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.howsyournews.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.howsyournews.com&lt;/a&gt;.  They do an awesome job of showing people what they&#039;re missing out on as opposed to the typical sentimental portrait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last comment, I promise.  I&#39;m still shuddering over your comment, GT, about folks with disabilities as  &#8220;not worth the trouble&#8221;.  I&#39;m sure you didn&#39;t mean it that way&#8230;  however, it&#39;s worth mentioning that a lot of people with disabilities, especially autism, read this site.</p>
<p>Here&#39;s a group that just had a show on MTV-  <a href="http://www.howsyournews.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.howsyournews.com</a>.  They do an awesome job of showing people what they&#39;re missing out on as opposed to the typical sentimental portrait.</p>
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		<title>By: Ara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put, Fosterhood (&quot;So the real problem, why do 1,200 people have to sit, waiting on a bus 4-5 hours a day as they file one-by-one into building? That&#039;s the human rights issue that people should really be up in arms over. The sooner these folks are integrated into the community...&quot;).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We shouldn&#039;t be discussing the group of people served by the centers as if they were an &quot;other.&quot; They are a part of our community! The buses that you complain about are really your problem, too. Do something positive about it rather than wishing members of your community excluded because their services annoy you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put, Fosterhood (&#8220;So the real problem, why do 1,200 people have to sit, waiting on a bus 4-5 hours a day as they file one-by-one into building? That&#39;s the human rights issue that people should really be up in arms over. The sooner these folks are integrated into the community&#8230;&#8221;).  </p>
<p>We shouldn&#39;t be discussing the group of people served by the centers as if they were an &#8220;other.&#8221; They are a part of our community! The buses that you complain about are really your problem, too. Do something positive about it rather than wishing members of your community excluded because their services annoy you.</p>
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		<title>By: Fosterhood </title>
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		<dc:creator>Fosterhood </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note about the idling- usually there&#039;s at least one person with a disability who requires an exact room temperature (not too hot, not too cold)- as such, it&#039;s OMRDD regulation, and not against the law, that the bus engines remain on.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So the real problem, why do 1,200 people have to sit, waiting on a bus 4-5 hours a day as they file one-by-one into building?  That&#039;s the human rights issue that people should really be up in arms over.  The sooner these folks are integrated into the community (like other major cities have exceeded us in) and out of an institution, the sooner this won&#039;t be a problem...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you think the bus drivers are rude to you, imagine how they&#039;re treating the disabled people on the bus. Go get somebody off of a bus and involve them in your life.  Only then will the buses be gone for good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note about the idling- usually there&#39;s at least one person with a disability who requires an exact room temperature (not too hot, not too cold)- as such, it&#39;s OMRDD regulation, and not against the law, that the bus engines remain on.  </p>
<p>So the real problem, why do 1,200 people have to sit, waiting on a bus 4-5 hours a day as they file one-by-one into building?  That&#39;s the human rights issue that people should really be up in arms over.  The sooner these folks are integrated into the community (like other major cities have exceeded us in) and out of an institution, the sooner this won&#39;t be a problem&#8230;</p>
<p>If you think the bus drivers are rude to you, imagine how they&#39;re treating the disabled people on the bus. Go get somebody off of a bus and involve them in your life.  Only then will the buses be gone for good.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note about the idling- usually there&#039;s at least one person with a disability who requires an exact room temperature (not too hot, not too cold)- as such, it&#039;s OMRDD regulation, and not against the law, that the bus engines remain on.  

So the real problem, why do 1,200 people have to sit, waiting on a bus 2-3 hours a day as they file one-by-one into building?  That&#039;s the human rights issue that people should really be up in arms over.  The sooner these folks are integrated into the community (like other major cities have exceeded us in) and out of an institution, the sooner this won&#039;t be a problem...

If you think the bus drivers are rude to you, imagine how they&#039;re treating the disabled people on the bus. Go get somebody off of a bus and into your community.  Only then will the buses be gone for good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note about the idling- usually there&#8217;s at least one person with a disability who requires an exact room temperature (not too hot, not too cold)- as such, it&#8217;s OMRDD regulation, and not against the law, that the bus engines remain on.  </p>
<p>So the real problem, why do 1,200 people have to sit, waiting on a bus 2-3 hours a day as they file one-by-one into building?  That&#8217;s the human rights issue that people should really be up in arms over.  The sooner these folks are integrated into the community (like other major cities have exceeded us in) and out of an institution, the sooner this won&#8217;t be a problem&#8230;</p>
<p>If you think the bus drivers are rude to you, imagine how they&#8217;re treating the disabled people on the bus. Go get somebody off of a bus and into your community.  Only then will the buses be gone for good.</p>
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		<title>By: GT</title>
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		<dc:creator>GT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I welcome the disabled and the organizations that serve them in my neighborhood, but the daily hours of idling busses, horrible pollution, traffic, and rude drivers are not worth the trouble.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Twice daily - from about 830AM to 1030AM - and again in the afternoon, about a dozen diesel busses idle on Plymouth, Adams, Water, and Washington Streets. Every morning they block traffic on Water Street between Adams and Main, causing upset drivers to honk and idle more.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The bus drivers refuse to shut off their engines, even when they are politely reminded that idling is illegal. It&#039;s sad that these good organizations are having to move, but I have given up, and will be happy when the busses are gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I welcome the disabled and the organizations that serve them in my neighborhood, but the daily hours of idling busses, horrible pollution, traffic, and rude drivers are not worth the trouble.</p>
<p>Twice daily &#8211; from about 830AM to 1030AM &#8211; and again in the afternoon, about a dozen diesel busses idle on Plymouth, Adams, Water, and Washington Streets. Every morning they block traffic on Water Street between Adams and Main, causing upset drivers to honk and idle more.</p>
<p>The bus drivers refuse to shut off their engines, even when they are politely reminded that idling is illegal. It&#39;s sad that these good organizations are having to move, but I have given up, and will be happy when the busses are gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Fosterhood </title>
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		<dc:creator>Fosterhood </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, we&#039;re all just one head injury away from riding those buses...&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;It seems a shame that these folks are bussed into such an educated and resource rich community like ours but we still aren&#039;t progressive enough to incorporate them into our &#039;hood... &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Particularly now that so many of these guys are combat injured vets.&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;&lt;/BR&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, we&#39;re all just one head injury away from riding those buses&#8230;</p>
<p>It seems a shame that these folks are bussed into such an educated and resource rich community like ours but we still aren&#39;t progressive enough to incorporate them into our &#39;hood&#8230; </p>
<p>Particularly now that so many of these guys are combat injured vets.</p>
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