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	<title>Comments on: Dock St Dumbo Protest Calls for Investigation</title>
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		<title>By: No2Walentas2Trees</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2009/05/31/dock-st-dumbo-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-43160</link>
		<dc:creator>No2Walentas2Trees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lesson to everyone. &#039;Democracy&#039; is dead. Voting is for suckers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lesson to everyone. &#8216;Democracy&#8217; is dead. Voting is for suckers.</p>
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		<title>By: Dumbo NYC, Brooklyn &#187; Archive &#187; Land Use City Council Committee Approves Dock St - One More Vote To Go (DumboNYC.com)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dumbo NYC, Brooklyn &#187; Archive &#187; Land Use City Council Committee Approves Dock St - One More Vote To Go (DumboNYC.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] vote came less than a week after the opposition requested an investigation into the activities of the SCA, the Department of Education (DOE), and Two Trees Management, its [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] vote came less than a week after the opposition requested an investigation into the activities of the SCA, the Department of Education (DOE), and Two Trees Management, its [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dumbostreets</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2009/05/31/dock-st-dumbo-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-43153</link>
		<dc:creator>dumbostreets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did Quinn take the payola before or after she voted to expand her own term limit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Quinn take the payola before or after she voted to expand her own term limit?</p>
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		<title>By: Publius</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2009/05/31/dock-st-dumbo-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-43150</link>
		<dc:creator>Publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 13:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The New York Observer is reporting that the fix is in for the City Council vote on Dock Street.

The article says that the bought and paid for Speaker Quinn, recipient of tens of thousands of Jeb &amp; Co&#039;s bundled largess is (suprise, suprise) voting to approve Two Tree&#039;s zoning change, which, the article claims, will make it difficult for opponents in the Council to defeat it:

http://tinyurl.com/ounzol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The New York Observer is reporting that the fix is in for the City Council vote on Dock Street.</p>
<p>The article says that the bought and paid for Speaker Quinn, recipient of tens of thousands of Jeb &amp; Co&#8217;s bundled largess is (suprise, suprise) voting to approve Two Tree&#8217;s zoning change, which, the article claims, will make it difficult for opponents in the Council to defeat it:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/ounzol" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/ounzol</a></p>
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		<title>By: BrooklynLove</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2009/05/31/dock-st-dumbo-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-43148</link>
		<dc:creator>BrooklynLove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeppers.  good luck to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeppers.  good luck to you.</p>
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		<title>By: No2Walentas2Trees</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2009/05/31/dock-st-dumbo-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-43147</link>
		<dc:creator>No2Walentas2Trees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, don&#039;t change the view, and in that aspect, all other points are meaningless and without merit. Want a school, get a real study and real alternatives, not back room deals. It is a shame that Walentas has hijacked support so that he can fill his piggy bank. 

Is that better, BL?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, don&#8217;t change the view, and in that aspect, all other points are meaningless and without merit. Want a school, get a real study and real alternatives, not back room deals. It is a shame that Walentas has hijacked support so that he can fill his piggy bank. </p>
<p>Is that better, BL?</p>
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		<title>By: BrooklynLove</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2009/05/31/dock-st-dumbo-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-43146</link>
		<dc:creator>BrooklynLove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t know why you&#039;re struggling with this concept - i don&#039;t care about the building, i care about the opposition.  walentas&#039;s tactics and representations and what the proponents say are irrelevant as to the opposition&#039;s actions.

you want to keep a pretty view - so just come out and say it instead of hiding behind peripheral concerns, and deflecting attention elsewhere.  all else be damned - don&#039;t change the view!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t know why you&#8217;re struggling with this concept &#8211; i don&#8217;t care about the building, i care about the opposition.  walentas&#8217;s tactics and representations and what the proponents say are irrelevant as to the opposition&#8217;s actions.</p>
<p>you want to keep a pretty view &#8211; so just come out and say it instead of hiding behind peripheral concerns, and deflecting attention elsewhere.  all else be damned &#8211; don&#8217;t change the view!</p>
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		<title>By: No2Walentas2Trees</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2009/05/31/dock-st-dumbo-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-43145</link>
		<dc:creator>No2Walentas2Trees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BL, &quot;Preserving pretty views&quot; is what created the Landmark commission in the first place. 

You attack the opposition by saying that this is what they want...so what? Big deal? The proponents push the school idea, so you are suggesting that the opposition has no right to challenge this? The proponents come with &quot;the view will be fine&quot; So it is only fitting that the opposition attack their point. 

You keep claiming you are neutral, but that is being dishonest as you attack the opposition at every chance, without considering their point. 

A school can be built anywhere, this is the oppositions point. Walentas has chosen to use the need for a school as his primary reason to get the building through. 

You have also suggested that internet posts and letters are enough, but guess what, that have no legal backing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BL, &#8220;Preserving pretty views&#8221; is what created the Landmark commission in the first place. </p>
<p>You attack the opposition by saying that this is what they want&#8230;so what? Big deal? The proponents push the school idea, so you are suggesting that the opposition has no right to challenge this? The proponents come with &#8220;the view will be fine&#8221; So it is only fitting that the opposition attack their point. </p>
<p>You keep claiming you are neutral, but that is being dishonest as you attack the opposition at every chance, without considering their point. </p>
<p>A school can be built anywhere, this is the oppositions point. Walentas has chosen to use the need for a school as his primary reason to get the building through. </p>
<p>You have also suggested that internet posts and letters are enough, but guess what, that have no legal backing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2009/05/31/dock-st-dumbo-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-43144</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has everyone read this article?  This is how much TT loves the concept of education.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/nyregion/thecity/08disa.html?_r=2&amp;scp=4&amp;sq=dumbo&amp;st=cse

Preserving the integrity of the BB is reduced to a pretty view.

Affodable housing?  I&#039;ll believe it when I see it.  What is considered affordable anyway?  And to whom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has everyone read this article?  This is how much TT loves the concept of education.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/nyregion/thecity/08disa.html?_r=2&amp;scp=4&amp;sq=dumbo&amp;st=cse" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/nyregion/thecity/08disa.html?_r=2&amp;scp=4&amp;sq=dumbo&amp;st=cse</a></p>
<p>Preserving the integrity of the BB is reduced to a pretty view.</p>
<p>Affodable housing?  I&#8217;ll believe it when I see it.  What is considered affordable anyway?  And to whom?</p>
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		<title>By: BrooklynLove</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2009/05/31/dock-st-dumbo-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-43143</link>
		<dc:creator>BrooklynLove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the concept is simple and not dependent on whether someone has an apartment with a view that may be blocked.  this group screams about corruption in the review process and uncertain promises of a school and affordable housing yet all 3 items are not the group&#039;s concern.  their concern is that pretty views of the bridge will be altered - from any vantage point. 

if your real concern is overwhelmingly not compelling to decision makers, maybe there&#039;s something to be learned from that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the concept is simple and not dependent on whether someone has an apartment with a view that may be blocked.  this group screams about corruption in the review process and uncertain promises of a school and affordable housing yet all 3 items are not the group&#8217;s concern.  their concern is that pretty views of the bridge will be altered &#8211; from any vantage point. </p>
<p>if your real concern is overwhelmingly not compelling to decision makers, maybe there&#8217;s something to be learned from that.</p>
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		<title>By: Publius</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2009/05/31/dock-st-dumbo-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-43142</link>
		<dc:creator>Publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DuhVoyager:

You and your micro-movement are starting to sweat at bit over the SCA/Two Trees scandal.  I know you guys were hoping to have the final Council ULURP vote before the delayed FOIL request got out.

So here&#039;s a little song that might help you through open government and legitimate public scrutiny:

So let the sun shine in 
face it with a grin. 
Smilers never lose 
and frowners never win. 
So ley the sun shine in 
face it with a grin 
Open up your heart and let the sun shine in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DuhVoyager:</p>
<p>You and your micro-movement are starting to sweat at bit over the SCA/Two Trees scandal.  I know you guys were hoping to have the final Council ULURP vote before the delayed FOIL request got out.</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s a little song that might help you through open government and legitimate public scrutiny:</p>
<p>So let the sun shine in<br />
face it with a grin.<br />
Smilers never lose<br />
and frowners never win.<br />
So ley the sun shine in<br />
face it with a grin<br />
Open up your heart and let the sun shine in.</p>
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		<title>By: davoyager</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2009/05/31/dock-st-dumbo-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-43141</link>
		<dc:creator>davoyager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote this yesterday but it seems even more true today.
Comment from davoyager
Time: June 2, 2009, 12:16 am

Personally I think the DNA acts more like RNA, a Rotten Neighborhood Association.
How many of the people behind press release after press release have a direct financial stake in if this building gets built.
These people claim to speak for the best interest of the community and yet have real money at stake.
Investigate “Possible Criminal Activity” by the so called DNA and their ties to the multimillion dollar buildings with views they stand to lose; investigate the political activity and contributions to local politicians who are notorious opponents of this project and who are now seeking city wide office; and investigate their efforts to mislead the public and win at any cost. Perhaps under the Rico Act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote this yesterday but it seems even more true today.<br />
Comment from davoyager<br />
Time: June 2, 2009, 12:16 am</p>
<p>Personally I think the DNA acts more like RNA, a Rotten Neighborhood Association.<br />
How many of the people behind press release after press release have a direct financial stake in if this building gets built.<br />
These people claim to speak for the best interest of the community and yet have real money at stake.<br />
Investigate “Possible Criminal Activity” by the so called DNA and their ties to the multimillion dollar buildings with views they stand to lose; investigate the political activity and contributions to local politicians who are notorious opponents of this project and who are now seeking city wide office; and investigate their efforts to mislead the public and win at any cost. Perhaps under the Rico Act.</p>
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		<title>By: BrooklynLove</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2009/05/31/dock-st-dumbo-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-43140</link>
		<dc:creator>BrooklynLove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A school and affordable housing is destructive or malignant?

or maybe they&#039;re just irrelevant when you&#039;re really only concerned with preserving pretty views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A school and affordable housing is destructive or malignant?</p>
<p>or maybe they&#8217;re just irrelevant when you&#8217;re really only concerned with preserving pretty views.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Welby</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2009/05/31/dock-st-dumbo-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-43136</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Welby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 21:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This growth is malignant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This growth is malignant.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2009/05/31/dock-st-dumbo-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-43135</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Destructive growth is not progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Destructive growth is not progress.</p>
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