Comments on: David McCullough To Attend Dumbo Rally Against Dock St Development

By: huh?

huh? — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:53:43 +0000

I paid a little extra attention to the Front Street Pizza building when I walked by it this morning. I don’t like it, but it kind of cracked me up to see that it is the closest of all the new construction in Dumbo to the kind of building that N2W2T might find acceptable, with its red brick and old school blocky fenestration on the ground floor. Kind of like the one on Hudson Street. Just sayin’.

By: No2Walentas2Trees

No2Walentas2Trees — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:14:45 +0000

Well the new building on Hudson ave, at least the architect of that one at tried to blend the building in with the neighborhood and it isn’t that much of an eyesore. But the Front Street and water street buildings in VH are horrendous, have no respect for the neighborhood…..just like the disaster that is planed to ruin the BB view, no respect for the bridge or surrounding area. Honestly, if you people what generic crappy buildings, move to the projects….oh forgot…y’all don’t want to do that, nor have your kids attend the middle school already in the area…..gee I wonder why?

By: davoyager

davoyager — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:16:16 +0000

when I went to Stuyvesant we were taught to win arguments on the merits not thru attempts at bullying and personal attacks. It is sad that a few people attempt to dominate this discussion using Karl Rovean tactic of discrediting the messenger by any means. So distasteful and so destructive to an honest search for truth.

By: Publius

Publius — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:40:46 +0000

DA:

I get it, you’re being sarcastic! Good for you.

And if you insist on referring to me at Pubi, I’ll insist on calling you d-bag.

I can’t believe we’re both Stuy alumni. Depresses me.

By: huh?

huh? — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:41:59 +0000

Sorry, I forgot about the “Front Street Pizza” building, but that’s the only new building in Dumbo from TwoTrees. The others are courtesy of Guttman, Boymelgreen and David Kremer. The buildings in Vinegar Hill were done by smaller new developers.

By: davoyager

davoyager — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 05:19:41 +0000

Oh and, Pubi and Carlo…
get a room.

By: davoyager

davoyager — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 05:14:20 +0000

I agree with the esteemed author formally of Brooklyn Heights: I too think all the buildings around the bridge should be torn down especially those who’s views will be spoiled by the proposed Dock St. project. Let’s make the whole made up “bowl” a national park and restore it to it’s 1860′s architecture. I personally would love that.
We can all home school and teach evolution if we choose.

By: heavy flo

heavy flo — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:19:20 +0000

Al is right, as is No2 w…., Huh is wrong.

Both buildings have the same fenestration which is depicted at the following link:

http://dumbonyc.com/category/front-street/page/5/

I believe both were designed by Beyer, Blinder and Bell, Two Trees preferred Architects.

I really liked TT’s Jean Nouvel-designed steel-and-glass hotel which was abandoned (wrong location) in 1999 for the right reasons. Too bad he wasn’t called upon for this project.

By: Al

Al — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:10:11 +0000

The “Front Street Pizza” building is a Two Trees new construction, as is the building on the corner of Court and Atlantic, which houses the YMCA. Both buildings are as generic as they come- cheap and non-descript- not at all worthy of the Brooklyn Bridge.

By: huh?

huh? — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 01:19:18 +0000

None of the buildings you mentioned are TwoTrees projects. All of the new stuff — new from the ground up — is by other developers, including the buildings in Vinegar Hill.

By: Hmmmm

Hmmmm — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 01:11:14 +0000

Huh, I think No2Walentas is getting a bit too emotional, lol. Yes, the newer buildings in DUMBO are ugly, but I am not sure if TwoTrees built them or not. No2Walentas, take a chill pill. I’m with ya.

By: No2Walentas2Trees

No2Walentas2Trees — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 01:04:25 +0000

I am not referring to the converted buildings.

I was under the impression that the addition to the building across from the York St. Station was a TwoTrees Project, and the building on York which replaced the Between the bridges pub was also a twotrees project, and the two disasters in Vinegar Hill (front st and water st, respectively). I am pretty sure these new buildings were two trees as I distinctly remember seing ‘Two Trees Management’ on the work permit they posted on the wooden walls surrounding these buildings when they got built.

By: huh?

huh? — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:55:18 +0000

Walentas has not built ANY buildings in Dumbo, he converted the old Gair buildings from raw warehouse space to condos. So the buildings you are calling “UGLY” are considered by most of the rest of us to be historic landmarks.

By: No2Walentas2Trees

No2Walentas2Trees — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:50:52 +0000

Just took a stroll through DUMBO and looked at all of twoTrees new buildings….I must say, this guy, Walentas, is he artistically challenged? I mean, honestly, these buildings he built are UGLY, and not just ugly, but horrendously ugly. Honestly, can’t this guy afford a decent architect? A 3rd grader could design something better…I mean Yuck, it is just horrible, never mind that he didn’t use union labor, but building after building, it is just an eyesore, and now this kind of crap will be next to the majestic Brooklyn Bridge?

By: David McCullough holds press conference in DUMBO, calls project “visual vandalism” « Fulton Ferry Landing Association

Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:20:45 +0000

[...] David McCullough holds press conference in DUMBO, calls project “visual vandalism” Jump to Comments Historian and author David McCullough held a press conference in DUMBO this morning, arranged by the DUMBO Neighborhood Association. He spoke at length and very passionately about the desecration that would occur should Dock Street DUMBO be built as planned. You can read more in the New York Times and the Brooklyn Daily Eagle and Newsday. See original announcement at DUMBONYC. [...]