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	<title>Comments on: Dock Street Dumbo Hearing</title>
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	<description>Notes from the DUMBO, Brooklyn NY neighborhood</description>
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		<title>By: Dumbo NYC, Brooklyn &#187; Archive &#187; BK Paper: Jed Walentas Email Misinterpreted? (DumboNYC.com)</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/12/18/dock-street-dumbo-hearing/comment-page-1/#comment-48700</link>
		<dc:creator>Dumbo NYC, Brooklyn &#187; Archive &#187; BK Paper: Jed Walentas Email Misinterpreted? (DumboNYC.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 13:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] would note that they did turn out what were people from public housing at the prior hearing for the Community Board on December 17, 2008. According to the email from Jed Walentas, they made a decision not to do the same at the borough [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] would note that they did turn out what were people from public housing at the prior hearing for the Community Board on December 17, 2008. According to the email from Jed Walentas, they made a decision not to do the same at the borough [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daddy Mack</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/12/18/dock-street-dumbo-hearing/comment-page-1/#comment-41149</link>
		<dc:creator>Daddy Mack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;da&quot; -- &quot;this wonderful school,&quot; really?  Are you kidding?  What do you know about &quot;this wonderful school?&quot;  Do you know what the budget will be for the build-out?  Do you know what the class sizes be?  Do you know what the curriculum will be?  What will the student/teacher ratio be?  Will it have a gymnasium...athletic teams?  Will it have an auditorium...school plays and concerts?  Give us a break.  You don&#039;t know anything about &quot;this wonderful school.&quot;  The hollow space being offered by Two Trees is a Trojan Horse...pure and simple.  And it comes at a steep price if you ascribe any historical, architectural and/or aesthetic value to the Bridge.  People used to make jokes about the  Brooklyn Bridge being for sale.  I guess we will find out whether the price tag is a modest-sized (at best) empty space in a nauseatingly non-descript rental building.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;da&#8221; &#8212; &#8220;this wonderful school,&#8221; really?  Are you kidding?  What do you know about &#8220;this wonderful school?&#8221;  Do you know what the budget will be for the build-out?  Do you know what the class sizes be?  Do you know what the curriculum will be?  What will the student/teacher ratio be?  Will it have a gymnasium&#8230;athletic teams?  Will it have an auditorium&#8230;school plays and concerts?  Give us a break.  You don&#8217;t know anything about &#8220;this wonderful school.&#8221;  The hollow space being offered by Two Trees is a Trojan Horse&#8230;pure and simple.  And it comes at a steep price if you ascribe any historical, architectural and/or aesthetic value to the Bridge.  People used to make jokes about the  Brooklyn Bridge being for sale.  I guess we will find out whether the price tag is a modest-sized (at best) empty space in a nauseatingly non-descript rental building.</p>
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		<title>By: da</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/12/18/dock-street-dumbo-hearing/comment-page-1/#comment-41148</link>
		<dc:creator>da</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was there and it seemed the opponents will stop at nothing, will say any lie to torpedo this wonderful opportunity for the community. These are people who are afraid of &quot;imported teens&quot; and are only interested in their real estate values. As for the BHA this seems like a vendetta on their part. Their position is not for the betterment of the community as their kids all go to the pricy private schools so they don&#039;t see the critical need for this wonderful school. For my part I love the idea of this school in this inspirational setting and am appalled by attempts to squeeze more kids into the already overcrowded and outdated PS8 anex or some of the other wacky ideas Yassky and Stanton have dreamed up to support their wrongheaded opposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was there and it seemed the opponents will stop at nothing, will say any lie to torpedo this wonderful opportunity for the community. These are people who are afraid of &#8220;imported teens&#8221; and are only interested in their real estate values. As for the BHA this seems like a vendetta on their part. Their position is not for the betterment of the community as their kids all go to the pricy private schools so they don&#8217;t see the critical need for this wonderful school. For my part I love the idea of this school in this inspirational setting and am appalled by attempts to squeeze more kids into the already overcrowded and outdated PS8 anex or some of the other wacky ideas Yassky and Stanton have dreamed up to support their wrongheaded opposition.</p>
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		<title>By: Daddy Mack</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/12/18/dock-street-dumbo-hearing/comment-page-1/#comment-41099</link>
		<dc:creator>Daddy Mack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hooray for the CB2 land use committee!  Does the full board generally follow the vote of the committee? This is definitely a positive development for Dumbo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray for the CB2 land use committee!  Does the full board generally follow the vote of the committee? This is definitely a positive development for Dumbo.</p>
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		<title>By: projects</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/12/18/dock-street-dumbo-hearing/comment-page-1/#comment-41098</link>
		<dc:creator>projects</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice to have all the project kids come into the neighborhood</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice to have all the project kids come into the neighborhood</p>
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		<title>By: epc</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/12/18/dock-street-dumbo-hearing/comment-page-1/#comment-41097</link>
		<dc:creator>epc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 06:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CB2 Land Use Committee rejected the proposal 7-6: http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/31/51/31_51_sp_dock_rejected.html

It now goes to the full CB for a vote in January.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CB2 Land Use Committee rejected the proposal 7-6: <a href="http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/31/51/31_51_sp_dock_rejected.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/31/51/31_51_sp_dock_rejected.html</a></p>
<p>It now goes to the full CB for a vote in January.</p>
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		<title>By: BKallday</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/12/18/dock-street-dumbo-hearing/comment-page-1/#comment-41090</link>
		<dc:creator>BKallday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Farragut Houses IS in the neighborhood. A child  who live there would have a shorter walk to the proposed school than a child a who lives in all but the closest parts of Brooklyn Heights. 

Get used to it: IT WOULD BE THEIR SCHOOL TOO. and there are plenty of school age children who live in Farragut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Farragut Houses IS in the neighborhood. A child  who live there would have a shorter walk to the proposed school than a child a who lives in all but the closest parts of Brooklyn Heights. </p>
<p>Get used to it: IT WOULD BE THEIR SCHOOL TOO. and there are plenty of school age children who live in Farragut.</p>
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		<title>By: epc</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/12/18/dock-street-dumbo-hearing/comment-page-1/#comment-41086</link>
		<dc:creator>epc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reviewing the various materials I’ve been able to find, I’ve decided to oppose the Dock Street project.  I’d still be interested in the Google Earth model that’s apparently floating around (I didn’t see it listed in the Google Earth directory).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reviewing the various materials I’ve been able to find, I’ve decided to oppose the Dock Street project.  I’d still be interested in the Google Earth model that’s apparently floating around (I didn’t see it listed in the Google Earth directory).</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Dumbo</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/12/18/dock-street-dumbo-hearing/comment-page-1/#comment-41085</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Dumbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My feeling is that it all starts with the preserving of the majesty of the Brooklyn Bridge.
If a school &quot;needs&quot; to be built in Dumbo, I ask, why there?? Why so high?? What right do we have in, arguably,disturbing its presence?

If we believe that the above doesn&#039;t matter, then go ahead and discuss whether we should have a school here. - My vote is still no. The school will do nothing to enhance the overall quality of life here, nor would anybody be asking for it, if Two Trees had not brought up the thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My feeling is that it all starts with the preserving of the majesty of the Brooklyn Bridge.<br />
If a school &#8220;needs&#8221; to be built in Dumbo, I ask, why there?? Why so high?? What right do we have in, arguably,disturbing its presence?</p>
<p>If we believe that the above doesn&#8217;t matter, then go ahead and discuss whether we should have a school here. &#8211; My vote is still no. The school will do nothing to enhance the overall quality of life here, nor would anybody be asking for it, if Two Trees had not brought up the thought.</p>
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		<title>By: dumbo_resident</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/12/18/dock-street-dumbo-hearing/comment-page-1/#comment-41084</link>
		<dc:creator>dumbo_resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The proposed &quot;school&quot; in the building really won&#039;t solve anything. It&#039;s so small that it won&#039;t come close to accommodating all of the families looking to place their kids in a middle school -- it will only help a small percentage. So, the problem of not enough school space for kids will still exist. This Dock St. school is just a bandaid that will soon wear off.

A more permanent solution is what Yassky is seeking -- which is to find a better, larger space for a new school that can accommodate a greater number of kids. This is the way to go. Not some cramped little thing that will only be able to accept 1 kid out of every 100 that applies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The proposed &#8220;school&#8221; in the building really won&#8217;t solve anything. It&#8217;s so small that it won&#8217;t come close to accommodating all of the families looking to place their kids in a middle school &#8212; it will only help a small percentage. So, the problem of not enough school space for kids will still exist. This Dock St. school is just a bandaid that will soon wear off.</p>
<p>A more permanent solution is what Yassky is seeking &#8212; which is to find a better, larger space for a new school that can accommodate a greater number of kids. This is the way to go. Not some cramped little thing that will only be able to accept 1 kid out of every 100 that applies.</p>
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		<title>By: Dumbo NYC, Brooklyn &#187; Archive &#187; Youth, Education and Cultural Affairs Committee Voted 9–0 in Favor Of Dock St Dumbo (DumboNYC.com)</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/12/18/dock-street-dumbo-hearing/comment-page-1/#comment-41083</link>
		<dc:creator>Dumbo NYC, Brooklyn &#187; Archive &#187; Youth, Education and Cultural Affairs Committee Voted 9–0 in Favor Of Dock St Dumbo (DumboNYC.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] read more about the Community Board public hearing that occurred on Wed, see yesterday&#8217;s posting.     Filed in Dock Street, Dumbo Residents, Real Estate at 10:18 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] read more about the Community Board public hearing that occurred on Wed, see yesterday&#8217;s posting.     Filed in Dock Street, Dumbo Residents, Real Estate at 10:18 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ann O. Nemus</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/12/18/dock-street-dumbo-hearing/comment-page-1/#comment-41082</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann O. Nemus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Youth, Culture and education committee voted in favor 9-0 of including the school in the proposal.

http://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/5398#comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Youth, Culture and education committee voted in favor 9-0 of including the school in the proposal.</p>
<p><a href="http://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/5398#comments" rel="nofollow">http://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/5398#comments</a></p>
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		<title>By: mochozinco</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/12/18/dock-street-dumbo-hearing/comment-page-1/#comment-41081</link>
		<dc:creator>mochozinco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My apartment view is the Jehovah&#039;s witness building so I have nothing to loose... however I don&#039;t want a bunch of idiot middle school kids running around the neighboor... rich white kids or poor farragut kids... they are all annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My apartment view is the Jehovah&#8217;s witness building so I have nothing to loose&#8230; however I don&#8217;t want a bunch of idiot middle school kids running around the neighboor&#8230; rich white kids or poor farragut kids&#8230; they are all annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: baffled</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/12/18/dock-street-dumbo-hearing/comment-page-1/#comment-41080</link>
		<dc:creator>baffled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does anybody have an update as to how the vote went last night?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does anybody have an update as to how the vote went last night?</p>
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		<title>By: neighbor</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/12/18/dock-street-dumbo-hearing/comment-page-1/#comment-41079</link>
		<dc:creator>neighbor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;“neighbor” — i have both lived and worked in dumbo for around 4 years now. i have seen maybe one kid i would consider “middle school aged.” stop it.&quot;

There are several middle school aged children on my block and they don&#039;t appear to be going anywhere anytime soon. I know other families who have kids in 4th - 6th grade who also plan to stay long term. Some families may leave, but others want a city life and will stay, especially as the BBP takes shape and everyday car use + heating/cooling a big house look less and less desirable. There will be more and more children of all ages in this neighborhood as it grows and settles regardless of a percentage of 0-3 age children cycling in and out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“neighbor” — i have both lived and worked in dumbo for around 4 years now. i have seen maybe one kid i would consider “middle school aged.” stop it.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are several middle school aged children on my block and they don&#8217;t appear to be going anywhere anytime soon. I know other families who have kids in 4th &#8211; 6th grade who also plan to stay long term. Some families may leave, but others want a city life and will stay, especially as the BBP takes shape and everyday car use + heating/cooling a big house look less and less desirable. There will be more and more children of all ages in this neighborhood as it grows and settles regardless of a percentage of 0-3 age children cycling in and out.</p>
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