Comments on: Car Break-in Get Some Media Attention http://dumbonyc.com/2008/08/14/car-break-in-get-some-media-attention/ Notes from the DUMBO, Brooklyn NY neighborhood Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:59:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Action needed http://dumbonyc.com/2008/08/14/car-break-in-get-some-media-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-39903 Action needed Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:25:13 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/?p=1015#comment-39903 Fred: Many, many, many residents and local workers agree with you. The Smokey problem is real. It's much more than a have-not fighting against the newly-arrived haves. It is about a thug acting as an aggressive and threatening presence in our neighborhood. The irritating couple do, in fact, live here in the neighborhood, and sustain themselves through begging. They have been in Dumbo for longer than most of us, and they view their struggle as a fight against a white-washing of their home by big-money condo invaders, and enjoy intimidating anyone that doesn't represent "old dumbo" (ie 1975-1998). With more and more foot traffic here, these home-owning bums will continue to scam dollars from tourists and the hipsters who think its edgy to be "friends" with them. Reasonable residents expect or want DUMBO to become a sterile environment, but nobody wants to be threatened by a thug while walking in their own neighborhood. Most people who dislike the derelict duo would tolerate them if they toned down. Their cocky and threatening demeanor goes against the traditional humility of asking others for help. The 86th precinct has decided not to control the thugs, and the Dumbo business owners and property owners have dropped the ball so far. Action is needed now. Simply ignoring cracky and smokey will not work. We need leadership, and a real plan. I'm not advocating vigilatism or force - but some smart advocacy, and partnership between neighbors, businesses and police will go a long way to making Dumbo a better place free of this trash. Who will step up? Fred: Many, many, many residents and local workers agree with you. The Smokey problem is real. It’s much more than a have-not fighting against the newly-arrived haves. It is about a thug acting as an aggressive and threatening presence in our neighborhood. The irritating couple do, in fact, live here in the neighborhood, and sustain themselves through begging. They have been in Dumbo for longer than most of us, and they view their struggle as a fight against a white-washing of their home by big-money condo invaders, and enjoy intimidating anyone that doesn’t represent “old dumbo” (ie 1975-1998).

With more and more foot traffic here, these home-owning bums will continue to scam dollars from tourists and the hipsters who think its edgy to be “friends” with them.

Reasonable residents expect or want DUMBO to become a sterile environment, but nobody wants to be threatened by a thug while walking in their own neighborhood. Most people who dislike the derelict duo would tolerate them if they toned down. Their cocky and threatening demeanor goes against the traditional humility of asking others for help.

The 86th precinct has decided not to control the thugs, and the Dumbo business owners and property owners have dropped the ball so far.

Action is needed now. Simply ignoring cracky and smokey will not work. We need leadership, and a real plan.

I’m not advocating vigilatism or force – but some smart advocacy, and partnership between neighbors, businesses and police will go a long way to making Dumbo a better place free of this trash. Who will step up?

]]> By: fred williamson http://dumbonyc.com/2008/08/14/car-break-in-get-some-media-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-39902 fred williamson Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:28:18 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/?p=1015#comment-39902 Smokey and Cracky have to go. I think we're at the tipping point with them. Something's going to blow. Smokey and Cracky have to go. I think we’re at the tipping point with them. Something’s going to blow.

]]> By: Dumbo NYC, Brooklyn » Archive » 84 Precinct Council Crime Stats, Week of Aug 11, 2008 (DumboNYC.com) http://dumbonyc.com/2008/08/14/car-break-in-get-some-media-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-39843 Dumbo NYC, Brooklyn » Archive » 84 Precinct Council Crime Stats, Week of Aug 11, 2008 (DumboNYC.com) Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:22:21 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/?p=1015#comment-39843 [...] the recent increase in car break-ins and muggings in the area, please continue to voice your concerns with the Precinct by calling [...] [...] the recent increase in car break-ins and muggings in the area, please continue to voice your concerns with the Precinct by calling [...]

]]> By: Brooklyn Heights Blog » DUMBO Car Smash-ins Get WCBS-TV’s Attention http://dumbonyc.com/2008/08/14/car-break-in-get-some-media-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-39818 Brooklyn Heights Blog » DUMBO Car Smash-ins Get WCBS-TV’s Attention Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:54:36 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/?p=1015#comment-39818 [...] reported Thursday on a story that DUMBONYC had been on earlier this month - DUMBO’s problem of rampant car break-ins.  The Brooklyn Paper reports that cops have a [...] [...] reported Thursday on a story that DUMBONYC had been on earlier this month – DUMBO’s problem of rampant car break-ins.  The Brooklyn Paper reports that cops have a [...]

]]> By: Sign Poster http://dumbonyc.com/2008/08/14/car-break-in-get-some-media-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-39806 Sign Poster Sat, 16 Aug 2008 04:41:25 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/?p=1015#comment-39806 Fratello, you bring up a good point. I might try to sweep up some of the piles of fresh glass when they appear. Fratello, you bring up a good point. I might try to sweep up some of the piles of fresh glass when they appear.

]]> By: dime bag http://dumbonyc.com/2008/08/14/car-break-in-get-some-media-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-39802 dime bag Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:10:55 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/?p=1015#comment-39802 green hat was arrested today. green hat was arrested today.

]]> By: spotted also http://dumbonyc.com/2008/08/14/car-break-in-get-some-media-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-39801 spotted also Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:41:01 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/?p=1015#comment-39801 I saw 3 cops writing up a ticket to green hat guy the other day as I was walking past the park. I saw 3 cops writing up a ticket to green hat guy the other day as I was walking past the park.

]]> By: jon http://dumbonyc.com/2008/08/14/car-break-in-get-some-media-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-39800 jon Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:13:48 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/?p=1015#comment-39800 spotted: smokey and cracky being written up with 3 nypd cops on main and water street at 2pm today. they were let go, and the cops left in their van before i had a chance to ask what happened. spotted: smokey and cracky being written up with 3 nypd cops on main and water street at 2pm today. they were let go, and the cops left in their van before i had a chance to ask what happened.

]]> By: Anon http://dumbonyc.com/2008/08/14/car-break-in-get-some-media-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-39798 Anon Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:00:24 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/?p=1015#comment-39798 I applaud anyone who is doing something to make this neighborhood safer and more enjoyable to live and work in. Nothing lame about that. I applaud anyone who is doing something to make this neighborhood safer and more enjoyable to live and work in. Nothing lame about that.

]]> By: ratNYC http://dumbonyc.com/2008/08/14/car-break-in-get-some-media-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-39796 ratNYC Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:27:06 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/?p=1015#comment-39796 This morning while I was checking the traffic on the radio (1010wins) I'm sure I heard an arrest and charges had been made in connection with 11 car window break-ins in Dumbo. I have not been able to find the news in the station's website. This morning while I was checking the traffic on the radio (1010wins) I’m sure I heard an arrest and charges had been made in connection with 11 car window break-ins in Dumbo. I have not been able to find the news in the station’s website.

]]> By: dumbored http://dumbonyc.com/2008/08/14/car-break-in-get-some-media-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-39795 dumbored Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:00:16 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/?p=1015#comment-39795 From curbed.com: "Thank God for Cracky and Smokey - dumbo dwellers owe them a debt of gratitude. Harassing people and selling drugs in the most visible part of the neighborhood is exactly the quality-of-life draining work that keeps Dumbo affordable. Without their expletive-filled threats, and window smashing vandalism, you wouldn't even be able to find a $5,000/month studio there. Keep up the good work you two!" From curbed.com:

“Thank God for Cracky and Smokey – dumbo dwellers owe them a debt of gratitude. Harassing people and selling drugs in the most visible part of the neighborhood is exactly the quality-of-life draining work that keeps Dumbo affordable. Without their expletive-filled threats, and window smashing vandalism, you wouldn’t even be able to find a $5,000/month studio there. Keep up the good work you two!”

]]> By: media attention http://dumbonyc.com/2008/08/14/car-break-in-get-some-media-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-39793 media attention Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:34:34 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/?p=1015#comment-39793 If we can do something about ending the vandalism, why can't we do anything about the two DRUG DEALERS / aggressive beggars on Front and Washington????? If we can do something about ending the vandalism, why can’t we do anything about the two DRUG DEALERS / aggressive beggars on Front and Washington?????

]]> By: new2 http://dumbonyc.com/2008/08/14/car-break-in-get-some-media-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-39789 new2 Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:43:09 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/?p=1015#comment-39789 Where is Two Trees / Wallentas in all this? Seems they should have a strong vested interest in preserving the property values in the neighborhood, and that they should have some serious sway with the local precinct and government... Also seems they could single-handedly mitigate the issues by a) giving leases to more businesses that will remain open in the later evening after dark, and/or b) installing security cameras on their buildings, and/or c) hiring a private neighborhood watch team to patrol overnight along Front St. at least between Gold and Main. WorldWide Plaza in Hell's Kitchen has their own private security 2-4 person patrol on foot 24/7 and it enables people to sit outside in their plaza at all hours without concern. Where is Two Trees / Wallentas in all this? Seems they should have a strong vested interest in preserving the property values in the neighborhood, and that they should have some serious sway with the local precinct and government… Also seems they could single-handedly mitigate the issues by a) giving leases to more businesses that will remain open in the later evening after dark, and/or b) installing security cameras on their buildings, and/or c) hiring a private neighborhood watch team to patrol overnight along Front St. at least between Gold and Main. WorldWide Plaza in Hell’s Kitchen has their own private security 2-4 person patrol on foot 24/7 and it enables people to sit outside in their plaza at all hours without concern.

]]> By: fratello http://dumbonyc.com/2008/08/14/car-break-in-get-some-media-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-39788 fratello Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:56:50 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/?p=1015#comment-39788 To Local: Sign Poster does not sound like the same guy as Dumbowatch (whoever that is), and I'm glad that he's helping us communicate within this neighborhood, and helping raise awareness outside the neighborhood about the severity of this problem. Broken glass fragments are like crime pheromones for thugs. Broken windows say: "Come over here, man. You smell that freshly broken glass? That means this area is police-free. You can mug and rape people here and no one will care or try to stop you. Go ahead, do what you like." There was an earlier question about whether Mini Coopers are targeted for vandalism; unfortunately, they might be. In a year my Mini was vandalized five separate times ranging from intentional scratches on the hood to a broken windshield. To Local: Sign Poster does not sound like the same guy as Dumbowatch (whoever that is), and I’m glad that he’s helping us communicate within this neighborhood, and helping raise awareness outside the neighborhood about the severity of this problem. Broken glass fragments are like crime pheromones for thugs. Broken windows say: “Come over here, man. You smell that freshly broken glass? That means this area is police-free. You can mug and rape people here and no one will care or try to stop you. Go ahead, do what you like.”

There was an earlier question about whether Mini Coopers are targeted for vandalism; unfortunately, they might be. In a year my Mini was vandalized five separate times ranging from intentional scratches on the hood to a broken windshield.

]]> By: Darren http://dumbonyc.com/2008/08/14/car-break-in-get-some-media-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-39785 Darren Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:48:17 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/?p=1015#comment-39785 Hi. What is the big deal about a broken window? Mines was broken a few years ago, and the po-pos never did anything to help me. Now I live on the street and break windows in the hope that the fifties finally do something for the neighborhood. You have to break a few eggs (windows) to bake a cake (good neighborhood.) Hi. What is the big deal about a broken window? Mines was broken a few years ago, and the po-pos never did anything to help me. Now I live on the street and break windows in the hope that the fifties finally do something for the neighborhood.

You have to break a few eggs (windows) to bake a cake (good neighborhood.)

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