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	<title>Comments on: Dumbo&#8217;s Sky Watch Already has Reduced Crime</title>
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		<title>By: gramps</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/03/28/dumbo-sky-watch2/comment-page-1/#comment-44247</link>
		<dc:creator>gramps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@roadkill:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What do you propose? I guess we should be thankful for a mere Concern Troll after all the actual trolling on this topic, but please suggest something for discussion other than &quot;it sucks&quot;. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;More cops? How many? For how long? What would satisfy you?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Me personally, I&#039;m fine with the Fun Tower. It certainly shows they are taking the situation about as seriously as they can. I&#039;m sure manpower and equipment are precious, so it seems unrealistic to ask for a cop on every corner indefinitely. The Tower installation shows that the cops want to make it clear that eyes are open.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Making those arrests so quickly and getting the tower installed are about as much as one could hope for, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@roadkill:</p>
<p>What do you propose? I guess we should be thankful for a mere Concern Troll after all the actual trolling on this topic, but please suggest something for discussion other than &#8220;it sucks&#8221;. </p>
<p>More cops? How many? For how long? What would satisfy you?</p>
<p>Me personally, I&#39;m fine with the Fun Tower. It certainly shows they are taking the situation about as seriously as they can. I&#39;m sure manpower and equipment are precious, so it seems unrealistic to ask for a cop on every corner indefinitely. The Tower installation shows that the cops want to make it clear that eyes are open.</p>
<p>Making those arrests so quickly and getting the tower installed are about as much as one could hope for, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Dumbo NYC, Brooklyn &#187; Archive &#187; Dumbo Top Ten in 2008 (DumboNYC.com)</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/03/28/dumbo-sky-watch2/comment-page-1/#comment-41165</link>
		<dc:creator>Dumbo NYC, Brooklyn &#187; Archive &#187; Dumbo Top Ten in 2008 (DumboNYC.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (aka &#8220;Squarehead&#8221;) was sentenced for break-ins and other crimes. Also, NYPD deployed Sky Watch in response to a few muggings around the area, which reduced crime. The second half of the year saw [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (aka &#8220;Squarehead&#8221;) was sentenced for break-ins and other crimes. Also, NYPD deployed Sky Watch in response to a few muggings around the area, which reduced crime. The second half of the year saw [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dumbo NYC, Brooklyn &#187; Archive &#187; NYPD Sky Watch Deployed at Farragut Homes (DumboNYC.com)</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/03/28/dumbo-sky-watch2/comment-page-1/#comment-40908</link>
		<dc:creator>Dumbo NYC, Brooklyn &#187; Archive &#187; NYPD Sky Watch Deployed at Farragut Homes (DumboNYC.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] {Dumbo’s Sky Watch Already has Reduced Crime, 28Mar2008} {NYPD Sky Watch Deployed to Dumbo, 27Mar2008} {Anyone Know About the Shots Fired Last [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DanielB</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/03/28/dumbo-sky-watch2/comment-page-1/#comment-38236</link>
		<dc:creator>DanielB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your double-think is showing, Winston. ;)</description>
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		<title>By: Publius</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/03/28/dumbo-sky-watch2/comment-page-1/#comment-38219</link>
		<dc:creator>Publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I really am comforted living in a surveillance society. I feel secure in the knowledge that the authorities are photographing, recording, and scanning me with high-powered sensors. Basking in the cool glow of their spotlights gives me that extra bit of safety that I have felt lacking in my life.

I trust my government always to do the right and just thing without prejudice or discrimination based on socio-economic status.

I eagerly await the time when I find myself stopped on street-corner checkpoints and asked to present my identification--just to feel that extra bit of love--a love only possible when living in a surveillance / authoritarian society.

--Winston Smith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I really am comforted living in a surveillance society. I feel secure in the knowledge that the authorities are photographing, recording, and scanning me with high-powered sensors. Basking in the cool glow of their spotlights gives me that extra bit of safety that I have felt lacking in my life.</p>
<p>I trust my government always to do the right and just thing without prejudice or discrimination based on socio-economic status.</p>
<p>I eagerly await the time when I find myself stopped on street-corner checkpoints and asked to present my identification&#8211;just to feel that extra bit of love&#8211;a love only possible when living in a surveillance / authoritarian society.</p>
<p>&#8211;Winston Smith</p>
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		<title>By: DOT</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/03/28/dumbo-sky-watch2/comment-page-1/#comment-38204</link>
		<dc:creator>DOT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said DanielB.</description>
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		<title>By: rascal</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/03/28/dumbo-sky-watch2/comment-page-1/#comment-38203</link>
		<dc:creator>rascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t understand why the more intelligent among you get roped into these pointless, inane debates with extremist trolls like roadkill. You&#039;ll never change his mind, he&#039;ll always be looking for a fight, and your engaging and enraging him is clearly his reward.

Keep these discussions informative, productive, and sane and please ignore the obviously extremist commentators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t understand why the more intelligent among you get roped into these pointless, inane debates with extremist trolls like roadkill. You&#8217;ll never change his mind, he&#8217;ll always be looking for a fight, and your engaging and enraging him is clearly his reward.</p>
<p>Keep these discussions informative, productive, and sane and please ignore the obviously extremist commentators.</p>
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		<title>By: DanielB</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/03/28/dumbo-sky-watch2/comment-page-1/#comment-38193</link>
		<dc:creator>DanielB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should rephrase something...

I have also read of people urging individuals to defend themselves. If you just can’t go on living without your precious ipod, have at it… but in the real, logical world, possessions are not worth a life. If your life is threatened, it is your duty to bring the situation to a swift end… be it by running, screaming, or what have you but keep in mind that it is a very real possibility that you may suffer a fatal blow of some sort. Defend yourself if you must. Hold onto that thin thread that is life for as long as you can... in any way that you can.

Be safe, friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should rephrase something&#8230;</p>
<p>I have also read of people urging individuals to defend themselves. If you just can’t go on living without your precious ipod, have at it… but in the real, logical world, possessions are not worth a life. If your life is threatened, it is your duty to bring the situation to a swift end… be it by running, screaming, or what have you but keep in mind that it is a very real possibility that you may suffer a fatal blow of some sort. Defend yourself if you must. Hold onto that thin thread that is life for as long as you can&#8230; in any way that you can.</p>
<p>Be safe, friends.</p>
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		<title>By: DanielB</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/03/28/dumbo-sky-watch2/comment-page-1/#comment-38192</link>
		<dc:creator>DanielB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.&quot;- Benjamin Franklin

Personally, I am creeped out by the tower thing. I have read some of you referring to this action as &quot;overkill&quot;... I tend to agree but then again, I was not one of those who lost my senses over a slight increase of crime. Keep in mind that I am not bad-mouthing any of you who were so concerned about the events. You have full right to voice your concerns. But there are times where one must take into account that a high number of complaints will produce a grand display . This display may or may not be effective but is      to quiet or slow the incoming complaints. Its the classic &quot;See, we are doing our job&quot; maneuver.

But at what cost?

How many of you have noticed the dramatic increase of vehicles being towed since the tower was brought in? Yeah, yeah yeah... the law is the law but should we expect the police to be present and rule crime with an iron fist, well, we have no room to complain.

I have also read of people urging individuals to defend themselves. If you just can&#039;t go on living without your precious ipod, have at it... but in the real, logical world, possessions are not worth a life. If your life is threatened, it is your duty to bring the situation to a swift end... be it by running, screaming, or what have you but in no other instance should this be an option.

Not only do we need an effective neighborhood watch but we need to get the word out about any local self defense classes. We need to arm ourselves with practical detourents and/or weapons. Pepper spray, a key chain panic whistle, or a stun gun can be effective. (P.S. stun guns do not work like they do in the movies. Learn how to use it before you rely on it.) A camera phone can also be a great help in identifying an attacker. We need to alert any potential criminal that an official neighborhood watch does exist. Posting signs can do this well.

I could sit here all day long and preach about the things we need to do or have but really it all comes down to looking out for one another and  traveling smart.

Now the gated community idea... If that is truly what you want, move to Arizona. Isolate yourself.   Such a decision would have intense effects upon this neighborhood. Right now, we have a flourishing community. Should we surround ourselves out of fear and/or distaste for our extended neighbors, our neighborhood would surely fail.

On another note, I promise that should I ever run across an individual in need of my assistance in a dangerous situation, I will not hesitate to lend a hand. I&#039;ve got your back, neighbor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.&#8221;- Benjamin Franklin</p>
<p>Personally, I am creeped out by the tower thing. I have read some of you referring to this action as &#8220;overkill&#8221;&#8230; I tend to agree but then again, I was not one of those who lost my senses over a slight increase of crime. Keep in mind that I am not bad-mouthing any of you who were so concerned about the events. You have full right to voice your concerns. But there are times where one must take into account that a high number of complaints will produce a grand display . This display may or may not be effective but is      to quiet or slow the incoming complaints. Its the classic &#8220;See, we are doing our job&#8221; maneuver.</p>
<p>But at what cost?</p>
<p>How many of you have noticed the dramatic increase of vehicles being towed since the tower was brought in? Yeah, yeah yeah&#8230; the law is the law but should we expect the police to be present and rule crime with an iron fist, well, we have no room to complain.</p>
<p>I have also read of people urging individuals to defend themselves. If you just can&#8217;t go on living without your precious ipod, have at it&#8230; but in the real, logical world, possessions are not worth a life. If your life is threatened, it is your duty to bring the situation to a swift end&#8230; be it by running, screaming, or what have you but in no other instance should this be an option.</p>
<p>Not only do we need an effective neighborhood watch but we need to get the word out about any local self defense classes. We need to arm ourselves with practical detourents and/or weapons. Pepper spray, a key chain panic whistle, or a stun gun can be effective. (P.S. stun guns do not work like they do in the movies. Learn how to use it before you rely on it.) A camera phone can also be a great help in identifying an attacker. We need to alert any potential criminal that an official neighborhood watch does exist. Posting signs can do this well.</p>
<p>I could sit here all day long and preach about the things we need to do or have but really it all comes down to looking out for one another and  traveling smart.</p>
<p>Now the gated community idea&#8230; If that is truly what you want, move to Arizona. Isolate yourself.   Such a decision would have intense effects upon this neighborhood. Right now, we have a flourishing community. Should we surround ourselves out of fear and/or distaste for our extended neighbors, our neighborhood would surely fail.</p>
<p>On another note, I promise that should I ever run across an individual in need of my assistance in a dangerous situation, I will not hesitate to lend a hand. I&#8217;ve got your back, neighbor.</p>
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		<title>By: realdeal</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/03/28/dumbo-sky-watch2/comment-page-1/#comment-38183</link>
		<dc:creator>realdeal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>personally I think all you hipsters need to wake
up. most of you assholes grew up in the burbs. so don&#039;t even try this macho game. I grew up in a shit hole of a neighborhood and learn hand to hand combat. if you grew up in my nabe. you would have crap your pants. roadkill !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>personally I think all you hipsters need to wake<br />
up. most of you assholes grew up in the burbs. so don&#8217;t even try this macho game. I grew up in a shit hole of a neighborhood and learn hand to hand combat. if you grew up in my nabe. you would have crap your pants. roadkill !</p>
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		<title>By: Skeets McDonald</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/03/28/dumbo-sky-watch2/comment-page-1/#comment-38182</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeets McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this guy roadkill for real?  He proposes that arming all citizens would make the streets safer?  There&#039;s lots of citizens armed in Basra these days and I wouldn&#039;t call that place very safe.

I&#039;m sure roadkill has a ton of experience playing the Deer Hunter game in bars and he&#039;s probably really wicked at that.  Based on his experience shooting a little red light at a TV screen he probably considers himself an expert shot.  Heck I&#039;m willing to be that he&#039;s got the high score at Barcade.

Dudes like roadkill need to give their collective heads a shake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this guy roadkill for real?  He proposes that arming all citizens would make the streets safer?  There&#8217;s lots of citizens armed in Basra these days and I wouldn&#8217;t call that place very safe.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure roadkill has a ton of experience playing the Deer Hunter game in bars and he&#8217;s probably really wicked at that.  Based on his experience shooting a little red light at a TV screen he probably considers himself an expert shot.  Heck I&#8217;m willing to be that he&#8217;s got the high score at Barcade.</p>
<p>Dudes like roadkill need to give their collective heads a shake.</p>
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		<title>By: BrooklynLove</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/03/28/dumbo-sky-watch2/comment-page-1/#comment-38173</link>
		<dc:creator>BrooklynLove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 22:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey roadkill.  time to return the deathwish videos to blockbuster and get back to reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey roadkill.  time to return the deathwish videos to blockbuster and get back to reality.</p>
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		<title>By: roadkill</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/03/28/dumbo-sky-watch2/comment-page-1/#comment-38170</link>
		<dc:creator>roadkill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoa! you mean mano mano, toe to toe? OK, afther school in the parking lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoa! you mean mano mano, toe to toe? OK, afther school in the parking lot.</p>
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		<title>By: dieselfuel</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/03/28/dumbo-sky-watch2/comment-page-1/#comment-38167</link>
		<dc:creator>dieselfuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>roadkill- i don&#039;t debate on these blogs.  only face to face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>roadkill- i don&#8217;t debate on these blogs.  only face to face.</p>
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		<title>By: Johny Jacques</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2008/03/28/dumbo-sky-watch2/comment-page-1/#comment-38166</link>
		<dc:creator>Johny Jacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is crime in DUMBO?  Wow, I thought only us poor people in Crown Heights and other still-affordable neighborhoods had to endure such things...why test this out in DUMBO though I might ask</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is crime in DUMBO?  Wow, I thought only us poor people in Crown Heights and other still-affordable neighborhoods had to endure such things&#8230;why test this out in DUMBO though I might ask</p>
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