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	<title>Comments on: Dumbo Named Best Manhattanized Brooklyn Neighborhood</title>
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	<description>Notes from the DUMBO, Brooklyn NY neighborhood</description>
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		<title>By: anthony</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2007/10/19/village-voice-best-of-07/comment-page-1/#comment-44211</link>
		<dc:creator>anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are obviously correct: but at the same time I believe that there is nothing wrong with it.&lt;br&gt;DUMBO stays in Brooklyn )like Greenwich stays in Manhattan) and Bensonhurst stays in Brooklyn like Washington Heights stays in Manhattan and so on.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, if DUMBO was East New York then  East New York was DUMBO&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;eheh&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;that&#039;s the reality (of things)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and we (all of us) should applaud to the attempt to elevate a neighborhood lifestyle in any form.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;is the term &quot;manhattanized&quot; correct? Yes it is. Will they stay in DUMBO no matter what and for the long run? No, I don&#039;t think so. It&#039;s just &quot;temporary&quot;. That&#039;s the real problem as I see it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;but again you are indeed correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are obviously correct: but at the same time I believe that there is nothing wrong with it.<br />DUMBO stays in Brooklyn )like Greenwich stays in Manhattan) and Bensonhurst stays in Brooklyn like Washington Heights stays in Manhattan and so on.</p>
<p>Now, if DUMBO was East New York then  East New York was DUMBO</p>
<p>eheh</p>
<p>that&#39;s the reality (of things)</p>
<p>and we (all of us) should applaud to the attempt to elevate a neighborhood lifestyle in any form.</p>
<p>is the term &#8220;manhattanized&#8221; correct? Yes it is. Will they stay in DUMBO no matter what and for the long run? No, I don&#39;t think so. It&#39;s just &#8220;temporary&#8221;. That&#39;s the real problem as I see it.</p>
<p>but again you are indeed correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Pseudonymous Troll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pseudonymous Troll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 02:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This will not be a problem once DUMBO has been landmarked.</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew Porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live &quot;above&quot; you people in Brooklyn Heights -- and wandered your neighborhood when it was industrial, more than 30 years ago. (The OEM aka Purchase Building was for generations of artists a great place to swipe cast-off NYC office equipment, signs, industrial stuff.) My greatest concern about DUMBO is that it is so low, so near the water. The first time a major Nor&#039;Easter or, Godhelpus, a hurricane, comes up the East Coast, with its accompanying storm surge, will the neighborhood survive? Will people want to live in an area which is subject to periodic flooding? How many people who live on low floors near the water have flood insurance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live &#8220;above&#8221; you people in Brooklyn Heights &#8212; and wandered your neighborhood when it was industrial, more than 30 years ago. (The OEM aka Purchase Building was for generations of artists a great place to swipe cast-off NYC office equipment, signs, industrial stuff.) My greatest concern about DUMBO is that it is so low, so near the water. The first time a major Nor&#8217;Easter or, Godhelpus, a hurricane, comes up the East Coast, with its accompanying storm surge, will the neighborhood survive? Will people want to live in an area which is subject to periodic flooding? How many people who live on low floors near the water have flood insurance?</p>
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		<title>By: Chow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, we have an overpriced hair salon with questionable customer service. I for one would support a good salon in the neighborhood.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2007/10/19/village-voice-best-of-07/comment-page-1/#comment-36726</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool, Thanks guys while trying to give DUMBO a huge big-up for being great while understanding the lack of want for &quot;Manhattanization&quot; that may or may not be happening. I ended up having to defend my values. Oh! And clarify my stance on dirt, crime and a good time.

&quot;DUMBO - Best Manhattanised neighborhood in Brooklyn&quot; is Bo**ocks! The title can only be appreciated by people that care about how they live in relation to Manhattan. For the readers familiar with London - imagine if a title was awarded to &quot;Best North of the river neighborhood South of the Thames” that would be a massive joke (especially to a South Londoner).

I like DUMBO! I hope it does get cleaner and safer. I have a young family so want all the services mentioned within walking distance. I just hope that the greasy burrito place on Jay St does not turn in to a Wine Bar.

As a person from London looking to open a hair salon in DUMBO I have mixed feelings about the future of this hood. 

Just to check. Is there a hair salon in DUMBO? Would the introduction of one be seen by both, the creative, poor struggling, dirty, crime loving, hardcore puritan originals of DUMBO and the affluent Manhattan wannabe, buggy pushing, condo seeking newcomers as a good thing? Or just more invasive “Manhattanization” (If you don’t get my tone in this question you best not respond – or brush up on your Brit wit).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool, Thanks guys while trying to give DUMBO a huge big-up for being great while understanding the lack of want for &#8220;Manhattanization&#8221; that may or may not be happening. I ended up having to defend my values. Oh! And clarify my stance on dirt, crime and a good time.</p>
<p>&#8220;DUMBO &#8211; Best Manhattanised neighborhood in Brooklyn&#8221; is Bo**ocks! The title can only be appreciated by people that care about how they live in relation to Manhattan. For the readers familiar with London &#8211; imagine if a title was awarded to &#8220;Best North of the river neighborhood South of the Thames” that would be a massive joke (especially to a South Londoner).</p>
<p>I like DUMBO! I hope it does get cleaner and safer. I have a young family so want all the services mentioned within walking distance. I just hope that the greasy burrito place on Jay St does not turn in to a Wine Bar.</p>
<p>As a person from London looking to open a hair salon in DUMBO I have mixed feelings about the future of this hood. </p>
<p>Just to check. Is there a hair salon in DUMBO? Would the introduction of one be seen by both, the creative, poor struggling, dirty, crime loving, hardcore puritan originals of DUMBO and the affluent Manhattan wannabe, buggy pushing, condo seeking newcomers as a good thing? Or just more invasive “Manhattanization” (If you don’t get my tone in this question you best not respond – or brush up on your Brit wit).</p>
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		<title>By: T bone</title>
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		<dc:creator>T bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, I personally never once said I want a post office right in Dumbo. I generally use the post office near my office when necessary, so I don&#039;t really care either way.  But actually, yes, in the suburb where my parents live, there is a post office about 6 blocks away. And in the suburbs where there is not one in walking distance there is usually a post office, drug store, large grocery store, etc within a 5-10 minute drive.  And people have cars in the suburbs!  Everything is convenient. DUH!

My point was-  wanting BASIC amenities nearby and convenient to get to has NOTHING to do with Manhattan or Manhattanization.  If you would like to see my household income, I would be happy to show you because your idea that Dumboites can&#039;t afford Manhattan could not be further from the truth.  Not that it really matters- it is totally beside the point- just something you made up as a way to insult us. 

The bottom line is, we chose to live in Dumbo for many reasons, but we also hoped that more BASIC amenities (drugstore, restaurants, maybe a post office, etc) would become available as more people moved into the neighborhood. That is exactly what is happening, and we are happy about it (at least I am).  

Besides, there are many neighborhoods in Manhattan, all of which are quite different. So the idea of &quot;manhattanization&quot; really makes no sense. 

Nothing lasts forever, but I for one am happy with the current direction Dumbo is going in. Sorry that you are not.  Might be time for you to move! Your constant need to insult people who are different than you says a lot about you, so personally, I would be happy not to have you as neighbor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I personally never once said I want a post office right in Dumbo. I generally use the post office near my office when necessary, so I don&#8217;t really care either way.  But actually, yes, in the suburb where my parents live, there is a post office about 6 blocks away. And in the suburbs where there is not one in walking distance there is usually a post office, drug store, large grocery store, etc within a 5-10 minute drive.  And people have cars in the suburbs!  Everything is convenient. DUH!</p>
<p>My point was-  wanting BASIC amenities nearby and convenient to get to has NOTHING to do with Manhattan or Manhattanization.  If you would like to see my household income, I would be happy to show you because your idea that Dumboites can&#8217;t afford Manhattan could not be further from the truth.  Not that it really matters- it is totally beside the point- just something you made up as a way to insult us. </p>
<p>The bottom line is, we chose to live in Dumbo for many reasons, but we also hoped that more BASIC amenities (drugstore, restaurants, maybe a post office, etc) would become available as more people moved into the neighborhood. That is exactly what is happening, and we are happy about it (at least I am).  </p>
<p>Besides, there are many neighborhoods in Manhattan, all of which are quite different. So the idea of &#8220;manhattanization&#8221; really makes no sense. </p>
<p>Nothing lasts forever, but I for one am happy with the current direction Dumbo is going in. Sorry that you are not.  Might be time for you to move! Your constant need to insult people who are different than you says a lot about you, so personally, I would be happy not to have you as neighbor.</p>
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		<title>By: Chow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re pretty funny. 

The post office is farther than 6 blocks away. 

I&#039;ve been here for 6 years and my loft, view, and neighborhood character hasn&#039;t changed one bit. It&#039;s more crowded now, and thankfully has more amenities, and that&#039;s about it. 

Personally I have no problem with my new neighbors. I thank all of them for their business and welcome them to the hood. I knew the desolation wouldn&#039;t last and I&#039;m not whining about it. 

It asinine to believe people who want basic PO/drug store/food delivery amenities in their neighborhoods have &quot;Manhattan envy&quot;. It sounds to me like you have &quot;something else envy&quot;. Mhmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re pretty funny. </p>
<p>The post office is farther than 6 blocks away. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been here for 6 years and my loft, view, and neighborhood character hasn&#8217;t changed one bit. It&#8217;s more crowded now, and thankfully has more amenities, and that&#8217;s about it. </p>
<p>Personally I have no problem with my new neighbors. I thank all of them for their business and welcome them to the hood. I knew the desolation wouldn&#8217;t last and I&#8217;m not whining about it. </p>
<p>It asinine to believe people who want basic PO/drug store/food delivery amenities in their neighborhoods have &#8220;Manhattan envy&#8221;. It sounds to me like you have &#8220;something else envy&#8221;. Mhmm.</p>
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		<title>By: inflammatory poster</title>
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		<dc:creator>inflammatory poster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have a post office 6 blocks away...  are you saying in the suburbs people have a post office six blocks away? (duh, they don&#039;t!)

And you don&#039;t need it either.  But since you really wanted manhattan but couldn&#039;t afford it, you want it.  Because you want everything just a few steps away.  And when you get every little thing your heart desires you will look around, and you won&#039;t find that same view, that same character, or even that same loft.  And I will then say to you &quot;Well, did you really think it was going to last?&quot;

&quot;I don&#039;t think anyone here is trying to build manhattan&quot;... well, that&#039;s what you&#039;re doing, whether or not you want (or have the capacity) to see that I guess is another issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have a post office 6 blocks away&#8230;  are you saying in the suburbs people have a post office six blocks away? (duh, they don&#8217;t!)</p>
<p>And you don&#8217;t need it either.  But since you really wanted manhattan but couldn&#8217;t afford it, you want it.  Because you want everything just a few steps away.  And when you get every little thing your heart desires you will look around, and you won&#8217;t find that same view, that same character, or even that same loft.  And I will then say to you &#8220;Well, did you really think it was going to last?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t think anyone here is trying to build manhattan&#8221;&#8230; well, that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re doing, whether or not you want (or have the capacity) to see that I guess is another issue.</p>
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		<title>By: T bone</title>
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		<dc:creator>T bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I just don&#039;t care about &quot;cool&quot; that much.    

You are right, it&#039;s a great neighborhood!  I am looking forward to your family friendly salon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I just don&#8217;t care about &#8220;cool&#8221; that much.    </p>
<p>You are right, it&#8217;s a great neighborhood!  I am looking forward to your family friendly salon!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sue

I will come to Dumbo soon and check out some spaces so I can open my &quot;family friendly fun salon&quot; soon. 

Sorry to the other posters on this page. I thought about it and I don&#039;t know the history of Dumbo well enough to comment.

It is a great neigbourhood. All folk living in it should be thankful that a location this close to the centre of the city has held out as long as it has.

T-Bone and Matt need to understand that my saying &quot;Dull&quot; was what I thought would happen if the whole area gets gentrified. However many soires &quot;family fun days&quot; you have it will never be as cool as it is with the current amount of artists that will soon be priced out of DUMBO.

Just to ensure that readers understand I am not wanting dirt and crime to have a good time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sue</p>
<p>I will come to Dumbo soon and check out some spaces so I can open my &#8220;family friendly fun salon&#8221; soon. </p>
<p>Sorry to the other posters on this page. I thought about it and I don&#8217;t know the history of Dumbo well enough to comment.</p>
<p>It is a great neigbourhood. All folk living in it should be thankful that a location this close to the centre of the city has held out as long as it has.</p>
<p>T-Bone and Matt need to understand that my saying &#8220;Dull&#8221; was what I thought would happen if the whole area gets gentrified. However many soires &#8220;family fun days&#8221; you have it will never be as cool as it is with the current amount of artists that will soon be priced out of DUMBO.</p>
<p>Just to ensure that readers understand I am not wanting dirt and crime to have a good time.</p>
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		<title>By: Chow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I moved here for the character, loft space, and views and the lack of amenities like food delivery, PO, drug store, etc has ALWAYS sucked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I moved here for the character, loft space, and views and the lack of amenities like food delivery, PO, drug store, etc has ALWAYS sucked.</p>
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		<title>By: T bone</title>
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		<dc:creator>T bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most neighborhoods have basic amenities (even in the suburbs!), so I don&#039;t see how that is &quot;Manhattanization&quot;. And I don&#039;t think anyone here is trying to build Manhattan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most neighborhoods have basic amenities (even in the suburbs!), so I don&#8217;t see how that is &#8220;Manhattanization&#8221;. And I don&#8217;t think anyone here is trying to build Manhattan.</p>
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		<title>By: inflammatory poster</title>
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		<dc:creator>inflammatory poster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question isn&#039;t about me, and my taste for the neighborhood... or my success.

The question is, what did you like about DUMBO that made you come here instead of manhattan,  because you seem to be trying to build manhattan.

Everything you say about me &quot;didn&#039;t you see it coming&quot;...  will be said about you.  If there&#039;s something you like about dumbo, it probably is due in some part to dumbo&#039;s lack of amenities.

So yes, nothing wrong with wanting a post office or any amenity for that matter, steps from your front door.  But there is a saturation point that you won&#039;t even like... that&#039;s why you came here in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question isn&#8217;t about me, and my taste for the neighborhood&#8230; or my success.</p>
<p>The question is, what did you like about DUMBO that made you come here instead of manhattan,  because you seem to be trying to build manhattan.</p>
<p>Everything you say about me &#8220;didn&#8217;t you see it coming&#8221;&#8230;  will be said about you.  If there&#8217;s something you like about dumbo, it probably is due in some part to dumbo&#8217;s lack of amenities.</p>
<p>So yes, nothing wrong with wanting a post office or any amenity for that matter, steps from your front door.  But there is a saturation point that you won&#8217;t even like&#8230; that&#8217;s why you came here in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: T bone</title>
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		<dc:creator>T bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are tons of events and things happening now in Dumbo- yes, a lot of them &quot;clean and safe&quot; and family friendly- but I personally wouldn&#039;t put Dumbo in the &quot;dull&quot; category. 

I&#039;ll take clean and safe any day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are tons of events and things happening now in Dumbo- yes, a lot of them &#8220;clean and safe&#8221; and family friendly- but I personally wouldn&#8217;t put Dumbo in the &#8220;dull&#8221; category. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take clean and safe any day!</p>
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		<title>By: SueB</title>
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		<dc:creator>SueB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, I hope you come to Dumbo!  we could use a cool salon in Dumbo.  we don&#039;t need any GAPs or any more banks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, I hope you come to Dumbo!  we could use a cool salon in Dumbo.  we don&#8217;t need any GAPs or any more banks.</p>
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