Comments on: LPC Voted 8-0 to Consider Dumbo a Historic District http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/ Notes from the DUMBO, Brooklyn NY neighborhood Tue, 22 May 2012 20:46:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dumbo NYC, Brooklyn » Archive » LPC Public Hearing for Dumbo Historic District Tomorrow (DumboNYC.com) http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/comment-page-1/#comment-36733 Dumbo NYC, Brooklyn » Archive » LPC Public Hearing for Dumbo Historic District Tomorrow (DumboNYC.com) Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:11:00 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/#comment-36733 [...] {LPC Voted 8-0 to Consider Dumbo a Historic District, 26July07} {NY Times Highlights Dumbo Neighborhood Association, 4June07} {Dumbo Landmarking Meeting [...] [...] {LPC Voted 8-0 to Consider Dumbo a Historic District, 26July07} {NY Times Highlights Dumbo Neighborhood Association, 4June07} {Dumbo Landmarking Meeting [...]

]]> By: dumbo http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/comment-page-1/#comment-28341 dumbo Thu, 02 Aug 2007 13:58:57 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/#comment-28341 The BID is funded by local businesses and the, by far, largest benefactor is Walentas and 2 Trees. They know who pays the rent. The BID is funded by local businesses and the, by far, largest benefactor is Walentas and 2 Trees. They know who pays the rent.

]]> By: ? http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/comment-page-1/#comment-28134 ? Wed, 01 Aug 2007 21:47:04 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/#comment-28134 Ummm, BID = Business Improvement District. A BID is a quasi-government development entity in which the business owners in the area pay an assessment for things like street cleaning etc among other things. None of which involves anything having anything to do with advocating for residents outside of how they spend their money. DNA, well that's another crock-pot altogether. Ummm, BID = Business Improvement District. A BID is a quasi-government development entity in which the business owners in the area pay an assessment for things like street cleaning etc among other things. None of which involves anything having anything to do with advocating for residents outside of how they spend their money. DNA, well that’s another crock-pot altogether.

]]> By: Shawn http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/comment-page-1/#comment-28116 Shawn Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:03:53 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/#comment-28116 perhaps landmarking could at least stop atrocities like putting white window frames into classic warehouse buildings and painting them purple on one side and green on the other. You can argue all day about whether or not developers like walentas have been sensitive to these issues or not, and the answer is probably yes, in some cases, where it serves them, and no in others, but it takes only one gutman to prove that landmarking is a great and very necessary idea - that a-hole is sensitive to nothing under any circumstances and there will be no reigning in the destruction he unleashes unless he is restricted, and hit in the wallet for his violations - the only thing he understands or thinks about. perhaps landmarking could at least stop atrocities like putting white window frames into classic warehouse buildings and painting them purple on one side and green on the other. You can argue all day about whether or not developers like walentas have been sensitive to these issues or not, and the answer is probably yes, in some cases, where it serves them, and no in others, but it takes only one gutman to prove that landmarking is a great and very necessary idea – that a-hole is sensitive to nothing under any circumstances and there will be no reigning in the destruction he unleashes unless he is restricted, and hit in the wallet for his violations – the only thing he understands or thinks about.

]]> By: anon2 http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/comment-page-1/#comment-27372 anon2 Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:00:14 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/#comment-27372 anon, that is unbelievable. talk about tooting your own horn...What is the BID's stance on landmarking? It seems that they are made up of the developers in Dumbo and not working for the interest of the residents. The zoning maps is also on an earlier post: http://dumbonyc.com/2007/06/04/nytimes-dna/ anon, that is unbelievable. talk about tooting your own horn…What is the BID’s stance on landmarking? It seems that they are made up of the developers in Dumbo and not working for the interest of the residents. The zoning maps is also on an earlier post: http://dumbonyc.com/2007/06/04/nytimes-dna/

]]> By: anon http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/comment-page-1/#comment-27371 anon Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:53:36 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/#comment-27371 Go to DNA website to see the proposed district map. PS - Peter Forman, quoted in the blurb as against landmarking but for zoning and natural devlopment, is on the board of the BID (Dumbo Improvement District) ANS developed J Street Condo - which IS not in character with the hood - IS AWFUL and UGLY and TOOBIG and far too high density fort his neighborhood. It had to be so tall/ Couldnt that greedy pig have built a - I dont know - 20 Story building? or a 15 story building? Still would have TOWERED over everything else. Instead he makes it over 34 stories... Landmarking will limit the completely out of scale buildings SUCH AS HIS. Zoning only enabled him to build that monstrosity. Once the zoning was changed in his favor, that is. Go to DNA website to see the proposed district map.
PS – Peter Forman, quoted in the blurb as against landmarking but for zoning and natural devlopment, is on the board of the BID (Dumbo Improvement District) ANS developed J Street Condo – which IS not in character with the hood – IS AWFUL and UGLY and TOOBIG and far too high density fort his neighborhood. It had to be so tall/ Couldnt that greedy pig have built a – I dont know – 20 Story building? or a 15 story building? Still would have TOWERED over everything else.
Instead he makes it over 34 stories… Landmarking will limit the completely out of scale buildings SUCH AS HIS. Zoning only enabled him to build that monstrosity. Once the zoning was changed in his favor, that is.

]]> By: Rascal http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/comment-page-1/#comment-27245 Rascal Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:41:51 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/#comment-27245 Yeah, that quote is obviously a developer posing as a resident. For all of his shortcomings, Walentas maintained a remarkable amount of respect for the existing structures and local aesthetic. That's the ONLY reason that development evolved so responsibly in Dumbo over the last 20 years--anyone else would have leveled the place. And they will still if controls are not implemented. Yeah, that quote is obviously a developer posing as a resident. For all of his shortcomings, Walentas maintained a remarkable amount of respect for the existing structures and local aesthetic. That’s the ONLY reason that development evolved so responsibly in Dumbo over the last 20 years–anyone else would have leveled the place. And they will still if controls are not implemented.

]]> By: nycG http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/comment-page-1/#comment-27223 nycG Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:54:50 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/#comment-27223 <i>“I guess I’m not too concerned about it being destroyed,” he said. “I think that market forces can work better at developing the neighborhood appropriately just as it has successfully over the past 30 years.” </i> HA....tell that to the people who are faced with losing their Brooklyn Bridge views c/o Two Trees!!!! I trust developers like Walentas and crew to "appropriately" develop the neighborhood about as much as I trust a used car salesman. “I guess I’m not too concerned about it being destroyed,” he said. “I think that market forces can work better at developing the neighborhood appropriately just as it has successfully over the past 30 years.”

HA….tell that to the people who are faced with losing their Brooklyn Bridge views c/o Two Trees!!!! I trust developers like Walentas and crew to “appropriately” develop the neighborhood about as much as I trust a used car salesman.

]]> By: sweeney http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/comment-page-1/#comment-27202 sweeney Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:43:37 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/#comment-27202 I'll tell you which one isn't. The proposed Two Trees monster sits just outside the designated historic district. Is it a coincidence or did the appropriate palms get greased when the boundaries were drawn up? I’ll tell you which one isn’t. The proposed Two Trees monster sits just outside the designated historic district. Is it a coincidence or did the appropriate palms get greased when the boundaries were drawn up?

]]> By: CB http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/comment-page-1/#comment-27197 CB Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:28:01 +0000 http://dumbonyc.com/2007/07/26/lpc-voted-8-0-to-consider-dumbo-a-historic-district/#comment-27197 I wonder which buildings would be included in the designation. I wonder which buildings would be included in the designation.

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