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	<title>Comments on: Vista on Vinegar Hill Progress Report (2/13/07)</title>
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	<description>Notes from the DUMBO, Brooklyn NY neighborhood</description>
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		<title>By: local resident</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2007/02/13/vista-on-vinegar-hill-progress-report-21307/comment-page-1/#comment-44168</link>
		<dc:creator>local resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the boundary line is Bridge Street then the Vista would be located in Vinegar Hill.  The Vista is located between Gold and Bridge Street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the boundary line is Bridge Street then the Vista would be located in Vinegar Hill.  The Vista is located between Gold and Bridge Street.</p>
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		<title>By: another VH Resident</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2007/02/13/vista-on-vinegar-hill-progress-report-21307/comment-page-1/#comment-14785</link>
		<dc:creator>another VH Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 00:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have walked home many late nights from the subway to Vinegar Hill. The only people who have bothered me are the local beggers asking for money. I have felt nervous about my safety quite a few times and I always watch my back. I&#039;ve heard multiple reports of people getting mugged on Bridge Street in the past few years. I avoid walking near the Farragut Towers in fear of getting shot randomly. Remember the old ladies that got caught in the crossfire not too long ago? I hope that I don&#039;t sound like a paranoid fear monger, I&#039;m just being realistic. Walking around VH at night is not that safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have walked home many late nights from the subway to Vinegar Hill. The only people who have bothered me are the local beggers asking for money. I have felt nervous about my safety quite a few times and I always watch my back. I&#8217;ve heard multiple reports of people getting mugged on Bridge Street in the past few years. I avoid walking near the Farragut Towers in fear of getting shot randomly. Remember the old ladies that got caught in the crossfire not too long ago? I hope that I don&#8217;t sound like a paranoid fear monger, I&#8217;m just being realistic. Walking around VH at night is not that safe.</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2007/02/13/vista-on-vinegar-hill-progress-report-21307/comment-page-1/#comment-11037</link>
		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone heard what they plan to do to the flooring on the balconies?  They said that they were going to put in decking or tile.  Last visit we had to the building, they were still only covered with roofing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone heard what they plan to do to the flooring on the balconies?  They said that they were going to put in decking or tile.  Last visit we had to the building, they were still only covered with roofing.</p>
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		<title>By: VH Resident</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2007/02/13/vista-on-vinegar-hill-progress-report-21307/comment-page-1/#comment-9956</link>
		<dc:creator>VH Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 23:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have walked home many late nights from the subway to Vinegar Hill, no one has ever bothered me and I have never felt nervous about my safety.  There is no one around at night.  Which can be good or bad depending on your outlook.  And the police patrol the area quite often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have walked home many late nights from the subway to Vinegar Hill, no one has ever bothered me and I have never felt nervous about my safety.  There is no one around at night.  Which can be good or bad depending on your outlook.  And the police patrol the area quite often.</p>
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		<title>By: Advise</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2007/02/13/vista-on-vinegar-hill-progress-report-21307/comment-page-1/#comment-9934</link>
		<dc:creator>Advise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the current residents of vinegar hill, please tell me what the neighborhood around 99 Gold and The Vista are like at night.  I work nights and my concern is coming home late.  Are the streets quiet? Do occupants of the projects wander over to Front St?  Is the subway station safe?  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the current residents of vinegar hill, please tell me what the neighborhood around 99 Gold and The Vista are like at night.  I work nights and my concern is coming home late.  Are the streets quiet? Do occupants of the projects wander over to Front St?  Is the subway station safe?  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay Dumbo</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2007/02/13/vista-on-vinegar-hill-progress-report-21307/comment-page-1/#comment-8308</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay Dumbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The architect for The Nexus/84 Front was Meltzer Mandl of Manhattan &amp; The Vista/206 Front was Karl Fischer, I believe.

There are still units available in 99 Gold, last I new!

Feel free to contact me with other real estate questions!
Lindsay
all dumbo real estate shown!
917.334.3348</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The architect for The Nexus/84 Front was Meltzer Mandl of Manhattan &amp; The Vista/206 Front was Karl Fischer, I believe.</p>
<p>There are still units available in 99 Gold, last I new!</p>
<p>Feel free to contact me with other real estate questions!<br />
Lindsay<br />
all dumbo real estate shown!<br />
917.334.3348</p>
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		<title>By: ...</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2007/02/13/vista-on-vinegar-hill-progress-report-21307/comment-page-1/#comment-7915</link>
		<dc:creator>...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DumboNYC Says:
....The construction fence in the front has been taken down, exposing the lobby door (whatâ€™s with the blue door?). 

The front door is currently wrapped in blue making tape. Drove by today and the glass canopy over the doorway is up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DumboNYC Says:<br />
&#8230;.The construction fence in the front has been taken down, exposing the lobby door (whatâ€™s with the blue door?). </p>
<p>The front door is currently wrapped in blue making tape. Drove by today and the glass canopy over the doorway is up!</p>
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		<title>By: non</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2007/02/13/vista-on-vinegar-hill-progress-report-21307/comment-page-1/#comment-7775</link>
		<dc:creator>non</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to their open house about a month ago and the salesman said that they expect to open in March.  They still had a number of units for sale.  And, he also said that they were selling parking spots in their garage for $55,000 a pop, with most of the spots already sold.  Wow.  Would it not be cheaper to just rent a spot in the neighborhood for maybe $200/month?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to their open house about a month ago and the salesman said that they expect to open in March.  They still had a number of units for sale.  And, he also said that they were selling parking spots in their garage for $55,000 a pop, with most of the spots already sold.  Wow.  Would it not be cheaper to just rent a spot in the neighborhood for maybe $200/month?</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2007/02/13/vista-on-vinegar-hill-progress-report-21307/comment-page-1/#comment-7753</link>
		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 04:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could lingering apartments at 99 Gold might hurt the appraisal value of the apartments at the Vista? I&#039;m not worried about this long-term just now as Vista owners are securing their financing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could lingering apartments at 99 Gold might hurt the appraisal value of the apartments at the Vista? I&#8217;m not worried about this long-term just now as Vista owners are securing their financing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2007/02/13/vista-on-vinegar-hill-progress-report-21307/comment-page-1/#comment-7750</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T Says:
February 15th, 2007 at 11:25 pm

Is 99 Gold sold out?! All of the listings are coming up as unavailable on Street Easy as of 2/5/07.


There must be a glitch on Street Easy b/c there are still a number of listing on The Developers Group&#039;s web site.  I have no idea what is going on with 99 Gold.  I toured the building last summer and they said they were expecting a fall move-in.  The building has looked finished for months and has just been sitting there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T Says:<br />
February 15th, 2007 at 11:25 pm</p>
<p>Is 99 Gold sold out?! All of the listings are coming up as unavailable on Street Easy as of 2/5/07.</p>
<p>There must be a glitch on Street Easy b/c there are still a number of listing on The Developers Group&#8217;s web site.  I have no idea what is going on with 99 Gold.  I toured the building last summer and they said they were expecting a fall move-in.  The building has looked finished for months and has just been sitting there.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2007/02/13/vista-on-vinegar-hill-progress-report-21307/comment-page-1/#comment-7745</link>
		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is 99 Gold sold out?! All of the listings are coming up as unavailable on Street Easy as of 2/5/07.

http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/building/99-gold-street-brooklyn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is 99 Gold sold out?! All of the listings are coming up as unavailable on Street Easy as of 2/5/07.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/building/99-gold-street-brooklyn" rel="nofollow">http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/building/99-gold-street-brooklyn</a></p>
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		<title>By: local resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>local resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the sterotypes people throw around on this site.  Why the upper west side?  Why the suburbs?
Do you really believe that &quot;sketchy&quot; is a code word, or are you just looking for an argument?
But for you I shall put it into context....here you go....
&quot;Careful!  Don&#039;t eat that old bagel, it looks quite sketchy.&quot;
Anyone else have other ideas regarding the term?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the sterotypes people throw around on this site.  Why the upper west side?  Why the suburbs?<br />
Do you really believe that &#8220;sketchy&#8221; is a code word, or are you just looking for an argument?<br />
But for you I shall put it into context&#8230;.here you go&#8230;.<br />
&#8220;Careful!  Don&#8217;t eat that old bagel, it looks quite sketchy.&#8221;<br />
Anyone else have other ideas regarding the term?</p>
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		<title>By: Lily White</title>
		<link>http://dumbonyc.com/2007/02/13/vista-on-vinegar-hill-progress-report-21307/comment-page-1/#comment-7714</link>
		<dc:creator>Lily White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will someone define &quot;sketchy&quot; for us?

why do ya&#039;ll insist on using codewords?

what are AFRAID of, not earning the approbation of your rich, equally ersatz liberal friends?

pls define &quot;sketchy.&quot;

should be fun for all of us who wish you&#039;d stay on the upper west side or go back to whatever warm, inviting, UNsketchy suburb you came from.

thanks in advance!

Lily</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will someone define &#8220;sketchy&#8221; for us?</p>
<p>why do ya&#8217;ll insist on using codewords?</p>
<p>what are AFRAID of, not earning the approbation of your rich, equally ersatz liberal friends?</p>
<p>pls define &#8220;sketchy.&#8221;</p>
<p>should be fun for all of us who wish you&#8217;d stay on the upper west side or go back to whatever warm, inviting, UNsketchy suburb you came from.</p>
<p>thanks in advance!</p>
<p>Lily</p>
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		<title>By: local resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>local resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that Bridge Street could be considered the &quot;line&quot; between Vinegar Hill and DUMBO.
I live in Vinegar Hill and I have never seen the &quot;sketchy&quot; type walking the streets, nor have I ever felt any fear walking home at night.
I agree with &quot;anonymous&quot; above.  Places like DUMBO, Caroll Gardens, South Slope, Ft. Green, Red Hook, etc. were all considered to be places too close to something that made them unwanted.  But the smart people took a closer look and saw the opportunity.
As for the prices at 99 Gold &amp; the Vista......they are high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that Bridge Street could be considered the &#8220;line&#8221; between Vinegar Hill and DUMBO.<br />
I live in Vinegar Hill and I have never seen the &#8220;sketchy&#8221; type walking the streets, nor have I ever felt any fear walking home at night.<br />
I agree with &#8220;anonymous&#8221; above.  Places like DUMBO, Caroll Gardens, South Slope, Ft. Green, Red Hook, etc. were all considered to be places too close to something that made them unwanted.  But the smart people took a closer look and saw the opportunity.<br />
As for the prices at 99 Gold &amp; the Vista&#8230;&#8230;they are high.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The block, like everything north of Jay, still has that desolate feel punctuated by wandering sketchy types from the projects.

The prices are however are cheap. All depends on what type of living environment you are willing to put up with for what amount of money.&quot;

...In other words, its much like the rest of DUMBO was about 10 (or so) years ago when everyone said &quot;who would want to live in a neighborhood with all that bridge noise...and its so desolate...and...etc&quot;  Hmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The block, like everything north of Jay, still has that desolate feel punctuated by wandering sketchy types from the projects.</p>
<p>The prices are however are cheap. All depends on what type of living environment you are willing to put up with for what amount of money.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;In other words, its much like the rest of DUMBO was about 10 (or so) years ago when everyone said &#8220;who would want to live in a neighborhood with all that bridge noise&#8230;and its so desolate&#8230;and&#8230;etc&#8221;  Hmm.</p>
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