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Vista on Vinegar Hill Progress Report (2/13/07)

February 13th, 2007

I’ve received a few emails from readers recently who have been asking for an update on The Vista on Vinegar Hill. It’s been 2 and a half months since the last update, so here’s an new update. Judging from the photos I snapped on Sunday, the building looks close to being finished. The construction fence in the front has been taken down, exposing the lobby door (what’s with the blue door?). According to Corcoran, the real estate firm selling the units, there are only 2 left (of 31 units):

  • Unit 1C, 1173 sqft, 2 bedroooms, 2 baths, $756 maint/cc, $44/mo tax, $724,914
  • Unit PHB, 1120 sqft, 2 bedroooms, 2 baths, $1068 maint/cc, $82/mo tax, $1,024,800

The Vista looks like a relative of 84 Front Street (aka The Nexus) with the similar tan brick color and matchinig matte steel window frames. Does anyone know if they’re designed by the same architect?

In any case, the closing date looks to be at the end of March or beginning of April. Any owners of The Vista have an update on this? Below are a couple of photos of 84 Front Street for comparison.

The Vista on Vinegar Hill, 206 Front Street, Vinegar Hill Brooklyn


 Rear view of The Nexus, 84 Front Street, Brooklyn

 Front view of The Nexus, 84 Front Street, Brooklyn

Previous Vista posts:
{Vista on Vinegar Hill Progress Report (11/13/06), DumboNYC}
{Vista on Vinegar Hill Progress Report (9/19/06), DumboNYC}

Filed in Front Street, Real Estate, Vinegar Hill at 12:08 am
Comments
  • another VH Resident
    I too have walked home many late nights from the subway to Vinegar Hill. The only people who have bothered me are the local beggers asking for money. I have felt nervous about my safety quite a few times and I always watch my back. I've heard multiple reports of people getting mugged on Bridge Street in the past few years. I avoid walking near the Farragut Towers in fear of getting shot randomly. Remember the old ladies that got caught in the crossfire not too long ago? I hope that I don't sound like a paranoid fear monger, I'm just being realistic. Walking around VH at night is not that safe.
  • Mel
    Has anyone heard what they plan to do to the flooring on the balconies? They said that they were going to put in decking or tile. Last visit we had to the building, they were still only covered with roofing.
  • VH Resident
    I have walked home many late nights from the subway to Vinegar Hill, no one has ever bothered me and I have never felt nervous about my safety. There is no one around at night. Which can be good or bad depending on your outlook. And the police patrol the area quite often.
  • Advise
    To the current residents of vinegar hill, please tell me what the neighborhood around 99 Gold and The Vista are like at night. I work nights and my concern is coming home late. Are the streets quiet? Do occupants of the projects wander over to Front St? Is the subway station safe? Thank you.
  • The architect for The Nexus/84 Front was Meltzer Mandl of Manhattan & The Vista/206 Front was Karl Fischer, I believe.

    There are still units available in 99 Gold, last I new!

    Feel free to contact me with other real estate questions!
    Lindsay
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  • ...
    DumboNYC Says:
    ....The construction fence in the front has been taken down, exposing the lobby door (what’s with the blue door?).

    The front door is currently wrapped in blue making tape. Drove by today and the glass canopy over the doorway is up!
  • non
    I went to their open house about a month ago and the salesman said that they expect to open in March. They still had a number of units for sale. And, he also said that they were selling parking spots in their garage for $55,000 a pop, with most of the spots already sold. Wow. Would it not be cheaper to just rent a spot in the neighborhood for maybe $200/month?
  • T
    Could lingering apartments at 99 Gold might hurt the appraisal value of the apartments at the Vista? I'm not worried about this long-term just now as Vista owners are securing their financing.
  • Dan
    T Says:
    February 15th, 2007 at 11:25 pm

    Is 99 Gold sold out?! All of the listings are coming up as unavailable on Street Easy as of 2/5/07.


    There must be a glitch on Street Easy b/c there are still a number of listing on The Developers Group's web site. I have no idea what is going on with 99 Gold. I toured the building last summer and they said they were expecting a fall move-in. The building has looked finished for months and has just been sitting there.
  • T
    Is 99 Gold sold out?! All of the listings are coming up as unavailable on Street Easy as of 2/5/07.

    http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/building/99-gold-...
  • local resident
    I love the sterotypes people throw around on this site. Why the upper west side? Why the suburbs?
    Do you really believe that "sketchy" is a code word, or are you just looking for an argument?
    But for you I shall put it into context....here you go....
    "Careful! Don't eat that old bagel, it looks quite sketchy."
    Anyone else have other ideas regarding the term?
  • Lily White
    will someone define "sketchy" for us?

    why do ya'll insist on using codewords?

    what are AFRAID of, not earning the approbation of your rich, equally ersatz liberal friends?

    pls define "sketchy."

    should be fun for all of us who wish you'd stay on the upper west side or go back to whatever warm, inviting, UNsketchy suburb you came from.

    thanks in advance!

    Lily
  • local resident
    I guess that Bridge Street could be considered the "line" between Vinegar Hill and DUMBO.
    I live in Vinegar Hill and I have never seen the "sketchy" type walking the streets, nor have I ever felt any fear walking home at night.
    I agree with "anonymous" above. Places like DUMBO, Caroll Gardens, South Slope, Ft. Green, Red Hook, etc. were all considered to be places too close to something that made them unwanted. But the smart people took a closer look and saw the opportunity.
    As for the prices at 99 Gold & the Vista......they are high.
  • anonymous
    "The block, like everything north of Jay, still has that desolate feel punctuated by wandering sketchy types from the projects.

    The prices are however are cheap. All depends on what type of living environment you are willing to put up with for what amount of money."

    ...In other words, its much like the rest of DUMBO was about 10 (or so) years ago when everyone said "who would want to live in a neighborhood with all that bridge noise...and its so desolate...and...etc" Hmm.
  • none
    I did the sales tour a while back. Even with just the framing up, you could tell the ceilings are low and the space feels claustrophobic.

    Unless you are on the penthouse level, you don't have a view, and if you are on the backside you overlook a construction supply yard.

    The block, like everything north of Jay, still has that desolate feel punctuated by wandering sketchy types from the projects.

    The prices are however are cheap. All depends on what type of living environment you are willing to put up with for what amount of money.
  • g
    not the same architect...
  • Dan
    For some reason Google and Yahoo maps puts 206 Front right in the middle of the Witness' parking lot. The building is actually between Bridge St and Gold St. I have also heard that the boundary between DUMBO and VH is Bridge St.
  • anon
    Google Maps pinpoints 206 Front St. between Bridge and Jay -- is it actually east of Bridge, between Bridge and Gold? Also, if you are a local resident, do you agree that Bridge St. is the boundary line or would you say it's a different street?
  • local resident
    If the boundary line is Bridge Street then the Vista would be located in Vinegar Hill. The Vista is located between Gold and Bridge Street.
  • anon
    What street marks the boundary between DUMBO and Vinegar Hill? I always thought Bridge St. was a good boundary, but that would place the Vista on Vinegar Hill condos in DUMBO. Is there an official or commonly-accepted boundary line?
  • Dan
    Please visit the new Yahoo group for contract holders of the Vista at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/206front/

    The recent update I received from the sales office is that construction should be substantially complete by the end of the month and that closings may start by the end of March. (However, judging by the track record of other new developments, I would not be surprised if this time frame is pushed back by a few months.)
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