New 70 Washington Street Website
September 5th, 2006
I noticed last week that the 70 Washington Street building sales website has been updated with their own domain name (www.70washington.com). According to the website, these Dumbo apartments are 70% sold. Has anyone been to the sales office for the latest info?
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September 5th, 2006 at 2:03 pm
I’m not surprised if they’re still around that range. While the apartments themselves are nice (assuming they’re not one of the ones where they laid down the floor incorrectly the first time), the rest of the building is cheap cheap cheap.
September 6th, 2006 at 2:51 pm
70 Washington is far from cheap. I wasn’t one of the folks who had to have their flooring reinstalled; I can imagine that would be frustrating. It’s pretty easy to tell how many units have sold considering they have a chart on the Web site. I counted 50 units still available, many on the lower floors, and six lines are fully sold out. Still a lot of people looking on the weekends.
September 6th, 2006 at 4:20 pm
You really think that the materials aren’t 2nd rate? I think the cheap carpet over plywood in the hallways is absolutely 2nd rate as is the siding near the elevators that’s already warping a bit on a couple of the floors.
It’s nowhere nearly as well built as say the Sweeney Building.
September 7th, 2006 at 8:59 am
Did anyone else notice the following amenity:
“State-of-the-art fiber optic capabilities with dual providers”?
I emailed a salesman about it and I got a less-than-helpful answer:
“It means that our apartments are prewired for your internet connection.
I believe its T-5 lines.”
Maybe someone who knows what this is can chime in?
Thanks.
September 7th, 2006 at 1:19 pm
Dave, that’s what happens when a salesman tries to bs you rather than saying that they don’t know. There’s no such thing as a T-5 line. A T-1 line is a high speed line, but the high price doesn’t make sense for home use. Dual provider probably means residents have the option of subscribing to a DSL service or a cable internet service.
September 7th, 2006 at 5:59 pm
I visited on a recent weekend and saw a good number of available units. Frankly, I’m surprised at the prices they are asking for a few of these places. While the views in some open units are certainly incredible (gotta love that downtown skyline!), anything over $850/sq ft is too much, in my opinion. I wonder if that is why they still haven’t sold out.
As for the shoddiness of the building, I’m personally curious if anyone knows how 70 Washington is in comparison with other buildings, such as 1 Main Street, 30 Main and the J Condo?
September 7th, 2006 at 9:17 pm
Just one opinion but it seems to me that since 1 Main was first, there were quite a few mistakes made there that tenants are paying for now. 30 Main was next and they fixed all the previous mistakes from 1 Main and got it right.
70 Wash…well I’ve said my piece there. No idea how J Condo will turn out but will be quite curious to see how that turns out and Beacon.
March 11th, 2007 at 11:28 am
Hello. Just discovered this site. Just negotiated the purchase of one of the units. Seems like the floor is one of those defective ones. Just Emailed them and requested a new one before we close. What should I expect from them??
March 12th, 2007 at 5:50 pm
Ed, as a general rule, you have more leverage with a sponsor prior to closing to get something done to your apt. then you will ever have after you close.
March 13th, 2007 at 12:30 am
The floors in 70 Washington are broken. Insist they fix it prior to close and they will. Note that the fix will be a resurface and gap-fill which are gloss over repairs. Better than nothing, but the problems will re-emerge next year. The developer is unwilling to totally rip out and properly re-install the floors. Such is the nature of this beast.
March 14th, 2007 at 9:48 am
Thanks so much for the advice! I’m not sure really how to evaluate the floors as I just saw them again. Its like the seams where the planks are laid are not 100% smoooth. Its not really major. Perhaps one could rip a sock or nylon if walked on in a certain way. Perhaps thats nomal??
In any event, they assured me that everything will be taken care of at the walk thru 2 weeks before closing. I must say that so far I am impressed with there “can-do” attitude.
March 14th, 2007 at 9:50 am
One other thing, does anyone find the 70 Wash website download takes like half a lifetime to download? Whats the deal with that?? LOL
March 27th, 2007 at 5:30 pm
This blog seems seems like a great place to share thoughts about Real Estate in Dumbo.How come more people don’t take part? I am curious how people think 70 Wash. compares with the other big boys such as 1 Main, Sweeney, J, etc..
Who has the best/worst Amenities such as Health Club?, Roof Deck? Construction? Services? Prices?
Dumbo is so unique and full of potential! Lets talk about it!!
March 28th, 2007 at 9:54 am
Ed – I totally agree with you. especially since each building has such different personalities. I’m a future Vista resident with view envy of J Condo. Though I love Vista for it’s intimacy (31 units) and potential roof deck, gym, etc…. The Jay Condo views are spectacular! i wonder if they’ll have a viewing deck???
March 28th, 2007 at 11:59 am
J Condo does have a rooftop deck. However, I believe most of it faces north, south, and east… the west views were allocated to the private terraces. Though the “commoners” will be able to see some of the harbor I’m sure. I believe 70 Washington did the same thing with the private cabanas. The common portion of the deck mostly faces east. Such a shame that the developers try to sqeeze out every last inch of money they can get, they charge millions for “millon dollar” views and forget
about the majority of residents. Good thing we have a great park that we can all take in the wonderful skyline from.
March 30th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
I’m a future 70 Wash Owner too. Yes, Mike, you are right. There is indeed a beautiful roof deck which hides the (best) Western View for most of us.
It might be nice to meet some new or existing folks, such as yourselves, who live (or will be living) in some of these buidings, at Starbucks, and talk some more about this fun area sometime.
Anyone interested?
April 3rd, 2007 at 9:35 pm
Can anyone elaborate on the issue with floors at 70 washington. Is the problem with many units or just a couple. What should I look for?
April 3rd, 2007 at 10:51 pm
Before we bought our apartment at 1 Main in August we toured a number of apartments in 70 Washington including several with severe problems with the bamboo flooring. Incredibly, the rep for the sales office explained that sometimes floors buckled when water penetrated the space, the result, he further explained, of water seeking its level. Well, yes, water does seek its level, but it’s NOT supposed to find its level in apartment interiors! I’d be wary of any apartment that’s shown with dehumidifiers still running, which was the case in at least three units that my wife and I were shown.
April 4th, 2007 at 12:39 pm
Thanks, Jerry. I just got finished dealing with a flood at my current condo in the city. All floors had to be replaced. Not sure I want to take that on again. The units I looked at seemed to be okay but I’m going to have a second look. There’s alot of crap construction in this city and I was hoping that Two Trees would be better than the others. What’s your experience with them at 1 Main?
April 4th, 2007 at 4:13 pm
Thankfully, the unit that I will be moving into does not seem to me (I hope)to have any water problems. There does seem to be too much separation at the seams of the floor planks. I have been assured that they wil take care of it upon walk thru inspection which basically means sealing it up I guess.
April 4th, 2007 at 4:44 pm
Roddy, the problem is building-wide at 70 Washington but varies in severity. The developer refuses to acknowledge that there is a problem – probably because it would cost him a fortune to rip out and properly reinstall the floors in every unit in the building.
Instead he is gap-filling and resealing (short term gloss over of the problem) the unsold units when they sell and the previously sold units that have the problem the worst and complain the loudest. For all other units irregular, ugly gaps the width of a nickel between floor planks are dubbed by the developer to be “normal.” These gaps emerge in the winter accompanied by loud, startling cracks the ring out throughout the units day and night. Especially near any window that is opened for a bit of fresh air.
Because wood naturally expands and contracts with changes in temperature and humidity, it is true that gaps in wooden flooring in the winter can occur. That’s why professional floor installations employ both modern materials and techniques such as floating wooden floors that contract and expand seamlessly and invisibly under the baseboard.
There are plenty of spaces in New York City with wooden floors that do not show gaps in the winter. It is clear the floors in 70 Washington were not designed, installed, or sourced professionally.
April 8th, 2007 at 7:53 am
i agree with None. almost every apartment has problems with the floors and they are trying to mask the problem by filling in gaps and applying a new finish coat over it. these units are complete crap when it comes to high end apts. walls are thin as paper, range hoods are not ducted so everything stinks each time you try to cook. very disappointing for a so called high end building.
April 9th, 2007 at 2:31 am
i’m looking at buying one of the leftover apts facing bqe…anyone living on that side of the building @ 70 washington? do most people change the existing windows? any advice/thoughts would be appreciated.
April 9th, 2007 at 9:24 am
I don’t agree with Agreed. Yes the floors are not perfect, but the walls are not thin as paper. I live on the 6th floor in a middle unit – meaning I have neighbors above me, below me and on other either side of me and it is extraordinarily rare that I hear anything above, below or on either side through the walls. I do hear occasional things through the bathroom vents though.
April 9th, 2007 at 3:46 pm
To L.E. – As a soon to be resident, I too find the remark about “paper thin walls” very questionable. I’m pleased to hear your response. What are you thoughts about the remark about poor Duct Ventilation?
To Sky – I’m in the same boat, but, will be facing West which is a good distance away from the BQE and is buffered by a beautuful (sic) parking lot. I am going to wait and see what its like before deciding on the windows.
There were two low oversized units which tempted me, but, it felt like cars were constantly going up the enterance ramp right into your living area.
If you picked one of those, to me, you should def. get added window protection. If other, I say wait and see.
Feel free to Email me if you want to talk some more Ltemkin@aol.com
April 9th, 2007 at 4:55 pm
Regarding the windows, it really depends on your sensitivity. I know that some people in the building have gone with city quiet or other window upgrades and they say you can’t hear a thing with the additional window panes added. Others just adjust to the noise you can hear – which is the BQE and the subways on the Manhattan Bridge. I say live with them for a bit and then decide. We didn’t upgrade our windows and except on really rare occasions, don’t hear any noise (but we’re on Washington St close to Front St).
As for the ventilation – it’s true that the stoves are not ventilated through the roof and that the vents in the stove filter some of the smells and smoke, but they don’t take out everything and they do need to be cleaned from time to time to be at their most effective. I’ve never actually lived in an apt. where they had true ventilation for the stoves through the roof, so to me, it’s normal. You can always open your windows when you need additional ventilation.
April 10th, 2007 at 8:46 am
you guys can debate all you want. the truth is the walls are paper thin and i hear my neighbor talking in the living room when im in bed. i also can hear every word coming through the vents in my home office.as for the vented hoods, give me a break these are million dollar plus units and i should not have to open all my windows to cook. wake up people…
April 10th, 2007 at 10:03 am
Agreed: Thanks for your insight. I’d love to hear
what other residents have to say about these things too.- Speak up folks!
April 10th, 2007 at 10:15 am
Unfortunately, these days in NYC, million dollar plus apartments don’t mean you will not have any complaints. However, I don’t agree with the walls being paper thin (I live in 70 Wash). I occasionally hear muffled voices of neighbors in the bathroom from the vents, but not from the walls. I never hear anyone above or below me. Those concrete floors are solid. I also soundproofed the windows, which made a huge difference. I live near the BQE and now don’t hear any traffic noise.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:31 pm
Thanks Jess! What do think about the ventilation ducts for cooking?… Anyone else have positive/negative feedback?
April 10th, 2007 at 4:06 pm
To me, the non-ventilated range hoods are the #1 drawback of our apartment (yes, even more than the floors–ours aren’t bad). But we knew about the stove vent going in, and certainly didn’t think it was a deal-breaker. I wish there were a way to vent to the outside, but there isn’t.
As for the walls, they’re not paper thin at all. We have a neighbor who cranks the tunes REALLY loud most of the time, and we never hear much at all, only noticing when we go out in the hallway. But (and this is a big one) you do, however, get noise where the walls meet the window frames. To maximize the number of apartments per floor, they divided most apartments in the middle of windows, rather than at exterior walls. While this makes sense for a developer, it’s plain silly from a design and noise suppression standpoint.
You can cure this by getting interior windows, but we’ve never been bothered enough by it.
April 11th, 2007 at 5:39 pm
Can anyone recommend a good window sound proofing solution other than city windows? I also wanted to explore how much it would cost to actually replace the windows with triple glazed windows.
Has anyone seen the windows they are using at J Condo? Now those are some nice windows. I wish they had used something similar to those at 70 Wash.
April 12th, 2007 at 1:21 pm
I’m chiming in a bit late here, but definitely don’t agree that the walls are paper thin at 70 wash. We certainly cannot hear conversations next door or music when played at a reasonable level. Our neighbor has late parties and blasts the music with her door open — that we can hear — but 99% of the time we hear nothing. Not sure if it has something to do with where were are in the building respective to other people posting.
April 18th, 2007 at 8:42 am
Has anyone had an issue with stains on the granite countertops at 70 Wash? We have not moved in yet and once the apt was cleaned noticed that the kitchen counter has several large stains. Any insight into the issue and Two Trees ability to fix it would be appreciated. So far, they have suggested we take a credit at closing.
April 19th, 2007 at 11:35 am
To me, I love the high of moving into a brand new flawless apartment.
On the other hand, everything has a price. If its a really good credit, I might be tempted to live with it and buy a 50″ Flat Screen TV or something with the added dough and call it a good trade.
Consider bringing some friends in before closing, but, don’t tell them about the stains. See if they notice it. Then, get their opinion on which way you should go.
Good luck!
June 12th, 2007 at 2:27 pm
Hola, I put in the extra windows almost immediately after moving in, as I am not used to such noise. I still hear the BQE traffic but spose I may be sensitive. My bamboo floors are fine by the way and do not think I can even hear other residences, just outside traffic noises seep in. Sorta like 70 wash really. But then again work downtown NYC and its very convenient to get into work.
June 12th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
Oh yeah I remember why I visited here. LOL. Whats the story on the roof space? Of course I never voted for any of the choices but wonder if anyone knew what will happen and when.
March 6th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Hate to say it but this building has no certificate of occupancy on file. It is an illegal loft conversion and everyone in this building can be evicted by the police and fire department. No exaggeration, no lie, just run the address in the NY Department of Building database. The eviction potential is real too, just ack anyone who lived at 475 Kent Ave in Williamsburg. For all the money people spend buying these places there’s no reason for this, there is just no excuse.
March 6th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Jay are you High? Look at the last PDF on the C of O page you retard.
March 9th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
We live in 70 Washington and have mentioned the floor issue (along with cracks in molding- wonder if anyone else has this?) and super said nothing could be done to fix it. If any residents have been able to get this fixed can you please let me know? Otherwise love it here but for the price we paid shouldn’t have to deal with this!
March 10th, 2008 at 8:20 am
What floor issue?
March 10th, 2008 at 9:39 am
The floors in the building have some issues. Some of the floors were installed with planks that were not wide enough, so the gaps between the planks were filled with glue and some sort of sealant. There should be a warranty, you should have contact management.
March 10th, 2008 at 9:59 am
There are floor problems.I just recently had my floors re-done (stripped, gaps filled and a thicker/glossy sealant applied). Looks much better now, but I don’t think it will last past a year.
The Walls are not paper thin, I don’t hear my neighbors talking. I do feel the bass from their music vibrating through the walls from time to time.
The most disenchanting thing here are the smells that emanate from the vents. Imagine coming home to smells of foods that you don’t find appealing. This doesn’t happen that often, maybe a couple times a month. but when it does the smell stays for a few hours. YUCK.
March 26th, 2008 at 9:25 am
Does anyone know of a 70 washington tenant group? I had heard there was one and was interested. I am having continual problems with the management in getting repairs done in the apt.
March 27th, 2008 at 9:52 am
I live at 70 Wash. Love it. On Some Of The Issues… Our floor is starting to split in a spot or two. I imagine we can get it filled as a stopgate measure if necessary…The walls are nice and thick. We do hear muffled voices thru the bathroom vents a little…. I think the inside staff is great…. Cynthia, in management is a doll. If you have a reasonable request, she might be the one to ask…Tenants don’t seem to interact much as a group. I agree that it would be a good idea to compare notes about minor or major issues alike every so often.
March 27th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Bamboo expands and contracts depending on the weather and moisture. The building management will certainly cooperate and help you on an case by case basis. As for a tenant group, there is a Yahoo board you can join if you are a resident.
April 19th, 2008 at 9:46 am
im considerng buying a 915 sq ft unit 1 bath home office for 785k. any thoughts?